Thanks for clarification

Have you a sample like sisremoto.prg without fivewin?


>Clipxnet itself is a good alternative for Web-based systems, but
combined with "desktop systems" is a greater alternative
>Easy, without cost, using existing knowledge/experience,

Have you documentation for better undestrand of made a web based
"desktop system" using existing knowledge/experience

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Massimo:

Too many questions in few lines

Did you read/understood messages/documentation/source code ?  :-)
Near all answers are in them

 >What is on Citlalli and what Clipxnet?
  Citlalli: Is perhaps the best graph library in "xBase world"
     Contain features not seen in other libraries and many of them are 
shown in samples/source code
  Clipxnet: explained in message

 >Witch is new model of systems development     :-),
  Well, you take very "old technologies" and combine them to build 
systems which work/perform as well as "new technologies"

 >how Clipxnet is part of this model"?
  Explained in sisremeng.txt

 >Replace Web-browsers with modified desktop systems in client side to
 >interact with Clipxnet in server side
 >What is modified desktop sistem?
  (?) A "desktop system" which is modified for any purpose ?
  "Desktop system" are the systems in older style, when LAN/WAN/Internet

were not as available as now
  In your "PC:Personal Computer", maybe isolated or with a "weak" 
connection to other computer, you used to run your "desktop systems"
  ( It was just a silly and limited description of "desktop system" )

 >>This "Universal System" consists of two parts:
 >>A) Client system
 >>   Usually is a Web navigator (web explorer)
<>   In this case the navigator is replaced by a classic "desktop
system"
 >Wich is "desktop system" in sisremoto ?
   In the example, sisremoto.exe IS the "desktop system" acting as 
client, and sisremoto.prg IS the source code
   Based on the concept, you take ANY of your old/recent "desktop 
systems" and modify it to replicate same kind of processes shown in 
sisremoto.exe/prg, or any other as complex as you want/can
   Sisremoto.prg is the basic guideline and sisremoto.exe is the 
physical/working part of example
   I choose (x)Harbour/FWH to show a working example to reviewers, and 
Citlalli just to enhance it
   Anybody can think immediatly: "my system can be modified to do that"

   In server side Clipxnet respond requests of client side

IS "remote system" because each side can be in any part of world

 >>B) Server system

 >Can you show same screenshot for better compression?
  If you install Citlalli you will be plenty of screens
   download/expand/run hcitxnet.exe
  If you install Clipxnet you will be plenty of screens
   download/expand/configure web server/copy files/(re)start web server

Then you can choose what you like for screenshots

Clipxnet itself is a good alternative for Web-based systems, but 
combined with "desktop systems" is a greater alternative
Easy, without cost, using existing knowledge/experience, ...

Sometimes I smile because current "Web based systems" try to reach the 
same level of development/perfomance/features contained in older 
"desktop systems" made 15-20 years ago, specially "in-line validation"
Some part of the problem is the "web browser/explorer" which is not 
under your control ?, replace it with an modified "desktop system"

 >I have runned sisremoto but sorry, I don't understand
  Message said:
"sisremoto.exe was created for local tests with Clipxnet installed"
  You must to install Clipxnet to test sisremoto locally
  Functions are pointing to:
    http://127.0.0.1/download.prg
    http://127.0.0.1/receive.prg
  You can change IP and recompile to use it in any part of world
  ... but for now start testing locally  :-)

  To install Clipxnet is very easy, just follow instructions in 
clipxnet.htm (clipxeng.htm) for Windows, OS/2, Linux, and Web Servers: 
Xitami (any platform), IIS, Apache (any platform)
Do not forget to copy download.prg, receive.prg to web pages dir

In Windows the quick way is Xitami Web Server (included in Clipxnet
package)
In Linux the quick way is Apache

When you setup Web server/Clipxnet and are working, run sisremoto.exe 
and click proper buttons

 >But I am intresting in idea of something like a web browser for web 
 >application
 >Can you help me?
  Sure, the samples are there with help purpose

Citlalli and Clipxnet are full of examples, and "Remote system" have his

own key example

David Macias
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