For Guix the current proposal looks a lot better and balanced to me
than the first. Kudos. I am fine with it. The copyright issue is the
main one, as far as I am concerned. The rest appears to be more
contrived (non-free software companies, learning, energy) and serving
other goals/agendas. But that has all been on the table. 

At least we'll be news on announcing it ;). 

Pj.

On Thu, Jun 04, 2026 at 07:01:50PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Hi Pjotr and all,
> 
> Pjotr Prins <[email protected]> skribis:
> 
> > I think the environmental statement is the weakest part of GCD008, or
> > at least the most exaggerated.
> 
> I disagree, but that’s OK: each one of us values and prioritizes things
> differently, and yet we can find common ground.
> 
> > Automating package writing in Guix is a boon for *our* projects. It *is*
> > saving us significant time with better outputs.
> 
> I trust you on this.
> 
> One question I have is: What can we already do that would better address
> packaging needs like yours?  Is it possible to reiterate what was
> achieved with Guix-CRAN¹ for more packages?
> 
> ¹ Fully automated import of ~20k packages with 95% of successful builds:
>   <https://codeberg.org/guix-science/guix-cran>.
> 
> > […] I don't like GCD008 because it is a
> > loaded gun aimed at our own feet.
> 
> I understand why you would see it that way, on the grounds that LLM
> would help us automate packaging and refactoring labor that our tooling
> does not (not yet) handle.
> 
> I’m seeing the other side of this coin.  My concern, as someone who
> already spends more time reviewing than writing code, is that letting
> “AI” in without regulation would also be a “loaded gun aimed at our own
> feet”.
> 
> I listed examples to share my perspective, with questions to whoever
> who’d rather avoid regulation as proposed by this GCD:
> 
>   
> https://codeberg.org/guix/guix-consensus-documents/pulls/13#issuecomment-16470989
> 
> Applying the proposed pledge would change nothing compared to current
> practices; withdrawing it—and thus sending the signal that “AI” use
> won’t be regulated—would have social, technical, and juridical effects
> that I think will quickly become irreversible.
> 
> I think we have to come to an agreement about a policy that takes into
> account these two sides of the coin.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ludo’.

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