Hi Greg, On 2026-05-04 at 12:38-04:00, Greg Hogan wrote: > On Mon, May 4, 2026 at 4:02 AM Nguyễn Gia Phong wrote: > > I like OpenJDK interim policy [3]: > > > > > > > Contributions in the OpenJDK Community must not include content > > > > generated, in part or in full, by large language models, > > > > diffusion models, or similar deep-learning systems. [...] > > > > > This interim policy aims to [...] limit their risks > > > while we gain further experience that will inform the full policy. > > > > If Oracle, the corporation memed as having more lawyers than engineers, > > and a major stakeholder of the big statistics market, is voicing concern > > over incorporating deep-learning models' output in their codebase, > > I think we should listen. > > Oracle requires that all contributions be co-owned by Oracle > (including to "register a copyright in your contribution and exercise > all ownership rights associated with it"). This requires copyright, > and since LLM output is not copyright creates an issue for the > aforementioned lawyers. > > This is not applicable to our project as GNU and Guix do not take > ownership, only requiring the contribution be licensed. LLM output is > licensable so your concerns are allayed.
As mentioned in the FAQ section of that page, > 3. What are the intellectual-property risks of using generative AI tools? > > The Oracle Contributor Agreement (OCA) requires that a contributor > own the intellectual property rights in each contribution and be able > to grant those rights to Oracle, without restriction. > Most generative AI tools, however, are trained on copyrighted > and licensed content, and their output can include content > that infringes those copyrights and licenses, so contributing > such content would violate the OCA. Whether a user > of a generative AI tool has IP rights in content generated > by the tool is the subject of active litigation. So yes, Oracle doesn't like contributions already in the public domain (so it can't sue other parties for infringements), but it's also not thrilled about infringing copyrights either (so it can be sued by other parties). I think the latter might apply to us. Best wishes, Phong
