Hello Florian, The discussion has happened in guix-devel before. The one when I participated was last year[0], and there was also discussion of this in the last Guix Days[1].
[0]: https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2024-12/msg00141.html [1]: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2025-02/msg00014.html On 30 March 2025 10:55:33 GMT, "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflor...@pelzflorian.de> wrote: >Hello Caleb. > >Caleb Herbert <c...@bluehome.net> writes: >> Please don't leave GNU > >Your mail alerted me; I too hope but also believe there are no such >plans to leave GNU. Where have you heard? > >There are not yet decided discussions that GNU Guix leave Savannah and >Debbugs and replace them for Codeberg/Forgejo. > >One argument among many (I forgot where it is from; searched on yhetil >mailing list archives but cannot find it…) is that Steve George’s user >survey [1] indicated users want to be told that there is a third-party >channel where users can get nonfree drivers to make Guix support >graphics, wifi on more kinds of hardware. Savannah does not (really?) >allow telling that to users. (This seems not quite true, I think.) >This is the only indication of leaving GNU that I know of. > > >> Guix has several drawbacks that, while trivial, make it worse than >> Fedora Silverblue: >> >> * Guix asks for my LUKS password twice > >Not sure of the current situation, but this was because GNU GRUB lacked >support for passing on the unlocked LUKS device with a secure key >derivation function or some such thing. The fix should be made >upstream. > > >> and has no Plymouth screen for >> entering the LUKS password. >> * Guix is slow at package management, even slower than DNF. > >Git-based Guix pull is slow because of Git, yes. But it must use a big >Git repo for its reproducibility, transactions and it uses only one big >slow repository because its package dependencies are so intertwined. > > >> * GNU Shepherd is immature and hard to use. >> * Guix uses more resources (disk space, processing power) than >> conventional distros. > >Except for guix pull and similar commands, is that really true? The >installed software is like in other package managers. > > >> * Guix inherits legacy practices from Debian-based distros >> * X11 should be Wayland >> * ext4 should be btrfs or XFS >> * Docker should be Podman > >This info is outdated when you use the latest Guix from the website or >after you guix pull. GNOME on Guix System uses Wayland. There is btrfs >and podman support. But GNOME Wayland is not the default in official >releases yet when not upgrading. > >Regards, >Florian > >[1] >https://guix.gnu.org/de/blog/2025/guix-user-and-contributor-survey-2024-the-results-part-1/ > Divya Ranjan, Mathematics, Philosophy and Libre Software
