On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 3:13 PM Ekaitz Zarraga <eka...@elenq.tech> wrote: > > Many people on this project have tried to change GNU from the inside and > are very critical with the FSF (see the https://gnu.tools/). I think > that's also a good way to do things, changing them from the inside. > Fixing them for all our friends. Honestly, the argument of getting > distance with GNU and the FSF is too simplistic to be taken seriously.
Changing GNU/FSF from the inside has been a losing strategy for at least a decade, as a conservative estimate. Nothing has meaningfully changed for the better and the situation continues to deteriorate both socially and infrastructurally. Many have tried to reform GNU, all have failed. Some burn out and never return. Those that remain choose to inhabit the fringes; projects that are historically GNU but in practice are no longer concerned with the project as a whole (Guile and Guix, for example.) We unsubscribe from gnu-prog-discuss and move on. Thinking that GNU can be changed at this point is what is truly too simplistic to be taken seriously. The GNU brand is and has been a net negative for Guix. Juli did a great job describing why in an earlier message. Every conversation about Guix I stumble upon online inevitably derails into a negative discussion about GNU and it's hard to break through the noise to explain that Guix is really cool, actually. It's not priority #1, but we gotta eschew GNU. - Dave
