Hi Greg,

Please read my earlier reply in this thread[1].

HuggingFace is demonstrably violating the licenses of the Free Software used to train its StarCoder2 LLM.

Software Heritage is continuing to partner with HuggingFace in spite of these violations.

Guix is continuing to partner with SWH in spite of their continued support of these violations.

Guix is indirectly enabling the violation of the license for the Free Software it packages. Guix has the power to stop doing that. What is your specific rationale for continuing to enable these clear license violations?

Thanks,

 — Ian

[1]: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2024-06/msg00195.html

Greg Hogan <c...@greghogan.com> writes:

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 12:33 PM MSavoritias <em...@msavoritias.me> wrote:

Ah it seems I wasn't clear enough.
I meant write something like:

By packaging a software project for Guix you are exposing said software to a code harvesting project (also known as LLMs or "AI") run by Software Heritage and/or their partners. Make sure you have gotten fully informed consent and that the author of this package fully
understands what the implications are.

Something like that. To make it clear that the package that is about to be added to Guix is going to be harvested for the LLM models Software
Heritage decided to share the code with.

Hope this is more clear.

Free software licenses do not require bespoke consent to "to run the
program, to study and change the program in source code form, to
redistribute exact copies, and to distribute modified versions" (and "Being free to do these things means (among other things) that you do
not have to ask or pay for permission to do so.").

Your fear mongering against free software runs afoul of Guix project guidelines ("In addition, the GNU distribution follow [sic] the free software distribution guidelines. Among other things, these guidelines reject non-free firmware, recommendations of non-free software, and
discuss ways to deal with trademarks and patents.").

If you feel that LLMs/AI are violating the terms of a license, then feel free to pursue that through the legal system (potentially very profitable given the monetary penalties for violations of copyright).
Otherwise, we should be celebrating the users and use of free
software. I'm old enough to remember "Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest
of the world mirror it ;)"
[https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/9607.2/0292.html].


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