Hello, (I find it difficult to efficiently follow this thread and to keep up to date with reading it, so please forgive me if someone else already addressed my considerations)
Simon Tournier <zimon.touto...@gmail.com> writes: [...] > « For which contributors do we want to/can we decrease the cognitive > overhead? », so I read it as: do we discuss about someone who is already > playing guitar or someone who is knowing nothing about music. > > We already have the answer: we are speaking about someone who already > plays guitar (a skilled programmer). There are many ways to contribute to Guix: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- - Project Management - Art - Documentation - Packages - Programming - System Administration - Test and Bug Reports - Translation --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- (https://guix.gnu.org/en/contribute/) and just a few of them requires to be a skilled programmer :-) But you are absolutely right, we are talking about someone who already have: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (skill (or project-management user-interface-design graphical-design multimedia-design technical-documentation-writing guix-programming guile-programming program-debugging system-administration translation-of-tachnical-documents)) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I'd also say that other "low level" skills are dependencies for some or all of the above mentioned skills, like: git-dvcs-usage, text-mua-usage As already mentioned, a conditio sine qua non (hard dependency) to contribute to Guix (as to as many many other international distributed projects) is to have "high level" skill named manage-communications-in-EN. Last but not least, a "meta skill" is that you accept to do all of this as a volunteer in a large group of volunteers, with very few /direct/ rewards - the most important one being to improve the best ever free software distro [1] - and many many issues to address... Quite a lot of skills to be able to contribute, I'd say. Furthermore, not a skill but another requirement not to be underestimated is you need a certain amount of time and unfortunately many people can only subtract that from their (often already scarce) free time. Probably we should find a way to /introduce/ old and new contributors to this concepts since I feel someway sometimes they are forgotten or underestimated. [...] > Somehow, now we have to discuss about specific task, task by task, and > propose how to improve. Survey is one next action for collecting > data. My 2 cents: surveys should be _carefully_ designed or the resulting data would be useless at best, misleading at worst [...] > The improvement had been the removal of the friction by switching to > some web interface. Now, the process is probably not easy for people > like me that are not used to web interface, although interacting with > web interface is a simpler task than configuring some tools for > editing translation files. There is a weblate CLI we should probably package in Guix: https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/wlc.html I just hope that changing from a git-commit-based approach to a weblate-tool approach have helped find many more active translators: https://translate.fedoraproject.org/projects/guix/#information > we are far from the initial discussion. ;-) Sorry: OT... OT?!? :-O > I do not see “the practice of controlling access to information, > advanced levels of study, elite sections of society, etc“. Well, are > you French? ;-) Because I feel we are discussing unrelated points > emerging although we are agree on the core and we just detail tiny > variations of the same thing. :-) If you want I can add a little bit of Italian attitide at discussing in detail tiny variations of the same thing :-O... just joking, eh! ;-) [...] Ciao! Gio' [1] well, I'm biased :-D -- Giovanni Biscuolo Xelera IT Infrastructures
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