wolf <w...@wolfsden.cz> writes:
> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > On 2023-09-02 21:08:12 +0200, Csepp wrote: >> >> paul <goodoldp...@autistici.org> writes: >> >> > Hello Giovanni, >> > >> > I get that you really don't find the web based workflow to bring >> > enough advantages to justify the migration, but first please >> > consider the picture that >> > Katherine sent and that we are evaluating the adequateness of the email >> > medium as a FOSS contribution management tool over email. >> > >> > If we lower the bar for contributions more people are gonna be >> > invested in Guix and will have interest in becoming committer and >> > reviewer. My >> > impression today is not that there aren't enough resources to >> > cover reviews, the bottleneck is the total time that committers >> > are able to dedicate to >> > reviewing (potentially re-reviewing if some other non-committer >> > contributor has already done a first review) and actually >> > commiting changes. >> > >> > I have many contributions opened more than a year ago where >> > (sometimes also because of me obviously, we're all working after >> > work here) the >> > interactions on the issue are separated by many weeks, sometimes even >> > months. >> > >> > To ease that bottleneck we just need to give more time to >> > committers or to increase the number of committers. All the >> > automation and process changes >> > we evaluate should be focused on either one of this two goals. I >> > don't have evidence that any web forge will help (maybe someone >> > has?), but I wouldn't >> > throw it out of the window just because it does not ease the current >> > review process. >> > >> > cheers >> > >> > giacomo >> >> To second this, I'd like to note for the record that on fedi at least >> 1-2 people told me that they chose Nix over Guix because they don't want >> to deal with the email based workflow. At least one of these people is >> a highly skilled programmer with decades of experience. > > Since we are collecting anecdotal data here, I pretty much stopped > contributing > to Alpine after they stopped using the mailing list. The friction (for me) > increased a lot compared to just calling git send-email. > > From my circle of acquaintances, all people who picked Nix did it because they > did not like Guix' purism regarding software freedom and wanted something that > "gets the job done". > > I am skeptical regarding people picking based on web vs. email flows, there > are > more important differences. > >> >> While I mostly argued for Sourcehut, I think the pull-based alternatives >> should also be kept in mind. >> The FOSS purism is a bigger deciding factor for sure. Maybe I'm conflating things and they said they didn't want to bother *contributing* to Guix, but I think they also stopped being Guix users.
