Re: Excessively energy-consuming software considered malware?

[Martin Becze]

My point to here is not to argue a "libertarian" viewpoint (I'm not one), but to argue that there or other consideration to mining crypto and that it is outside the realm of the free software movement from which Guix's package inclusion policy is derived. You or I might not like or agree with the over viewpoints but that should be fine with in the context of free software and operating systems. This is also foundational to liberalism and having a functional government in the first place.

Who is going to pay and provide all of this

I personal think it would be wonderful if governments focused on providing those things and mechanism such as the harbinger tax could be great and removing control of the monetary supply from the state would greatly reduce its ability to fund military expenditures. For reference David graeber's Debt: The First 5000 Years is an interesting narrative of how money's evolution was impart driven by the waging of mass war.

On 2/24/22 10:23, Hartmut Goebel wrote:

CW: politics below

Am 20.02.22 um 21:39 schrieb Martin Becze:

But undermining the governments ability to raise tax and therefor to wage war or not expending energy to prevent government theft is the ‘controversial morality’ that I am sure can be agreed to death and which probably doesn't belong on this list.

So nothing is won by undermining the government.

Undermining the governments ability to raise tax also means undermining the ability to build schools, kindergartens, public libraries, public transport, streets, etc. Who is going to pay and provide all of this, If there is no democratically controlled(*) government? You might argument that this will then be paid be wealthy people - but the country will depend solely on their will and want. And these wealthy people are not controlled at all. And these people might wage war, too. We already had such a system in the medieval time. It:s called feudalism. (*) Democratic control still needs a lot of improvement. Esp. in the USA where „the winner takes it all“ results in a two-party system, which does not represent the people. But this is another issue.

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