> So the software Guix release comes with coul only have source packages and be 
> able to build everything from source, using Stage0.

So the Guix release could only have source packages and be able to build 
everything from source, using Stage0.

(LOL I don't know what I did in that sentence)

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On Saturday, September 25th, 2021 at 2:32 PM, Ekaitz Zarraga 
<eka...@elenq.tech> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This should be clarified in the docs. I understand your confusion.
>
> Binary seeds are all the binaries that are needed for the instalation to 
> start. They normally include Bash, GCC and that kind of stuff. So the 
> instalation process starts with those and uses them as tools to build all the 
> packages needed from source.
>
> The full source bootstrap project aims to eliminate those binaries from the 
> process. This means those programs will be built from source too.
>
> Stage0 is a big part of the full source bootstrap. It is based on several 
> assemblers that finally are able to compile GCC (through many steps, 
> including the compilation of a heavily patched version of TCC).
>
> So the software Guix release comes with coul only have source packages and be 
> able to build everything from source, using Stage0.
>
> I'm not sure if this explanation is the best or if it helps, but I hope it 
> does.
>
> If you have more questions or anything don't hesitate to ask.
>
> Best,
> Ekaitz
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Friday, September 24th, 2021 at 8:35 PM, Sage Gerard <s...@sagegerard.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I'm confused about fundamental definitions from the manual.
>>
>>> Possibly one of the most harmless, but certainly by far the biggest binary 
>>> seed that all software distributions inject are the so [called] bootstrap 
>>> binary seed. Bootstrap binaries are the initial binary seeds that are used 
>>> to start building the distribution. -- 
>>> https://www.gnu.org/software/mes/manual/html_node/Bootstrappable-Builds.html
>>
>> This definition of bootstrap binary seeds confused me because
>>
>> - "Binary seed" itself is not defined. After some searching, my 
>> understanding is that this is a verified binary you inject among source code 
>> to produce more software. Is that correct?
>> - it switches from singular to plural form. "The biggest binary seed is the 
>> bootstrap binary seed", followed by "Bootstrap binaries are the initial 
>> binary seeds." How do these sentences reconcile?
>>
>> Also, in reading section 1.4 I didn't come away knowing what a full source 
>> bootstrap even is. Does that mean you reproduce the hex0 binary, and then 
>> use progressive stages to eventually reproduce the source code for a version 
>> of Guix? Or does it mean that you reproduce an exact disk image for an OS 
>> for the same CPU architecture as the hex program, with a copy of the Guix 
>> source ready to go on that system?

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