Hi Alex, Alex Kost <alez...@gmail.com> skribis:
> Ludovic Courtès (2019-04-07 18:24 +0200) wrote: > > [...] >> As you found out, this is deprecated in favor of ‘keyboard-layout’, >> which has a couple of advantages: it’s uniform (the same config works >> for GRUB, Linux, and Xorg), and it’s installed from the initrd, so >> already effective when you type in your passphrase (see >> <https://issues.guix.info/issue/34929>). >> >> ‘keyboard-layout’ definitely works for what you describe, Mark (see the >> examples in the manual.) >> >> If you do fancy things with Linux-native keymap files, Alex, it’s >> probably not for you. In that case you do need >> ‘console-keymap-service’. > > The fancy thing I do is simply loading my own keymap file, like this: > > (console-keymap-service (local-file ".../my.map")) > > If I understand correctly, ‘keyboard-layout’ does not allow me to do > this, right? Not directly, no. >> However, I was thinking that we probably want to steer users towards the >> ‘keyboard-layout’ mechanism so they don’t experience the inconsistencies >> we had before. That’s why I deprecated ‘console-keymap-service’. I’d >> argue that keymap experts won’t have difficulties coming up with a >> ‘console-keymap-service’ if they need it. > > Sure, it's not a problem for me to add ‘console-keymap-service’ to my > config, I was just surprised that some feature was removed > ("deprecating" means "removing sooner or later", right?) without > replacing it with equivalent functionality (as I see it). It’s deprecated in order to be removed eventually, yes. It’s “equivalent functionality” in the sense that it deals with keyboard layout in the console, but it’s also a different interface. >> WDYT? > > Please do whatever seems appropriate to you. I just think that keyboard > layouts for grub, tty and X server are completely unrelated settings, > and I don't like when such unrelated configurations are combined just to > become more "user-friendly". I don’t think anyone mentioned user-friendliness, though I think user-friendliness is a good thing. :-) Anyway, keyboard settings have been a longstanding issue with several open bug reports, notably about the inconsistencies one would inevitably go through. This change was proposed precisely to address this problem. Debian uses ‘console-setup’ for the same reason. Now, that does not prevent users from configuring things separately, or using ‘loadkeys’ directly, etc. Thanks for your feedback, Ludo’.
