We have been working on the wip-bootstrap branch with the aim to remove bootstrap binary seeds. At the moment this is for i686-linux only.
The first step was to build binutils-mesboot-2.20.1a, glibc-mesboot-2.2.5 and gcc-mesboot-4.7.4 without the use of any binary binutils, glibc or gcc. The second step was to remove binutils, glibc and gcc from the %bootstrap-binaries for i686-linux and replace them with the *-mesboot binaries. That only got us to build make-boot0, other bootstrap tools seem (!) to need a newer glibc. Currently, the i686-linux bootstrap binaries are ~230MB in size (unpacked). Removing binutils, glibc and gcc reduces this to ~130MB. The end goal is what we call a `full source bootstrap'; to only have a ~500 byte binary seed: the hex0 monitor. Getting there will take some time. Meanwhile we settle for a `reduced binary seed' bootstrap. Sadly, bootstrapping a glibc newer than 2.2.5 proved to be non-trivial. As a temporary workaround, we chose to increase the bootstrap debt again and inject the old %bootstrap-glibc after building all *-mesboot binaries. Now we have a prototype bootstrap that needs ("i686-linux" `(("linux-libre-headers" ,%bootstrap-linux-libre-headers) ("mescc-tools-seed" ,%mescc-tools-seed) ("mes-seed" ,%mes-seed) ("srfi-43" ,%srfi-43 ) ("tinycc-seed" ,%tinycc-seed))) ("coreutils&co" ,%bootstrap-coreutils&co) ("bash" ,%bootstrap-coreutils&co))) plus, to build the rest of Guix ("libc" ,%bootstrap-glibc) To try it, do something like git clone git://git.savannah.nongnu.org/guix cd guix git checkout -b wip-bootstrap guix environment guix ./bootstrap ./configure make and then, if you're feeling courageous and lucky ./pre-inst-env guix build --system=i686-linux hello or otherwise, you can do as I did ./pre-inst-env guix build --system=i686-linux gcc-mesboot ./pre-inst-env guix build --system=i686-linux -e '(@@ (gnu packages commencement) make-boot0)' ./pre-inst-env guix build --system=i686-linux -e '(@@ (gnu packages commencement) bintutils-cross-boot0)' ./pre-inst-env guix build --system=i686-linux -e '(@@ (gnu packages commencement) gcc-cross-boot0)' ./pre-inst-env guix build --system=i686-linux -e '(@@ (gnu packages commencement) gcc-final)' ./pre-inst-env guix build --system=i686-linux -e '(@@ (gnu packages commencement) guile-final)' ... We need to determine the next steps and we could use some help. A rough list of things to be done * cleanup the wip-bootstrap branch, merge it * replace %bootstrap-glibc with a bootstrapped glibc again+) * release mes 0.18 * replace coreutils&co by bootstrapped packages * other architectures: x86_64, arm*, ... * replace mes-seed by a full source bootstrapped mes.M2 * replace Bash with Gash and/or Geesh*) Wea; think that with "just a little bit" of extra effort we can have Guix x86 be the first GNU/Linux that was bootstrapped without the use of binary C compiler seed. Greetings, janneke +) After bootstrapping a static glibc-2.2.5, I tried building a shared 2.2.5, 2.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.6, 2.4, 2.5 and 2.6. When all failed, I invested a couple of days to patch 2.3.6...but that started to look like a gargantuan undertaking. Iow, I'm stuck here. *) Gash and Geesh are exciting new projects that have the mostly overlapping goal to create a posix/bash compatible shell in Guile. Although it may not be the highest priority from a full source bootstrap point of view, having a shell in Guile is very exciting and would help Guix a lot. We need to evaluate gash and geesh and formulate a strategy. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen <jann...@gnu.org> | GNU LilyPond http://lilypond.org Freelance IT http://JoyofSource.com | Avatar® http://AvatarAcademy.com