For those just getting the discussion, I have here a stripped log from from #guix IRC channel at chat.freenode.net:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- 2018-01-13T11:31:33-0200 <catonano> the Languagekit project targets llvm. Is it good for Guix ? And how does that relate to the GNU project ? http://etoileos.com/etoile/features/languagekit/ [...] 2018-01-13T11:38:19-0200 <wigust> correctly: This is bad for user's freedom for sure (non-copyleft thing), but we have in Guix packages with those licenses. [...] 2018-01-13T11:45:55-0200 <adfeno> catonano wigust: Agree, LLVM is one of the worst indeed. 2018-01-13T11:46:44-0200 <adfeno> The question is: what should we do? (a) Provide recipes to build with GCC; (b) Use LLVM. 2018-01-13T11:47:35-0200 <adfeno> I vote for (a), but it would be somehow more work in the begining. After the recipes are ready, however, we will have the option to send them upstream. This is an option of course, not a requirement. 2018-01-13T11:48:54-0200 <adfeno> ... but I wish that LanguageKit would soon figure out the right reasons for using GCC build recipes/instructions instead. 2018-01-13T11:49:08-0200 <adfeno> ... before something worse happens. 2018-01-13T11:49:50-0200 <catonano> adfeno: something worse ? [...] 2018-01-13T12:02:05-0200 <adfeno> catonano wigust: Re: LangugageKit and GCC vs. LLVM: Something worse in terms of "software freedom not being available for the end-user". 2018-01-13T12:02:23-0200 <adfeno> .... aaand I can't type today... ;) 2018-01-13T12:02:41-0200 <wigust> catonano: See about llvm from RMS https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2014-01/msg00247.html [...] 2018-01-13T12:05:47-0200 <adfeno> catonano wigust: I may not be an experienced programmer, but I can already see an issue here if LanguageKit and other projects keep up with this madness to support LLVM. [...] 2018-01-13T12:07:33-0200 <catonano> adfeno: we should probably move this discussion on the mailing list. I'd love having a deeper discussion about this [...] 2018-01-13T12:09:58-0200 <catonano> wigust: Stallman's assessment settles the point of the relationship between the GNU project and LanguageKit 2018-01-13T12:10:43-0200 <catonano> it´s a pity because otherwise GNUStep is an interesting project 2018-01-13T12:10:45-0200 <adfeno> catonano wigust: Agreed to move to mailing list. ;) 2018-01-13T12:10:50-0200 <catonano> ok 2018-01-13T12:11:00-0200 <adfeno> ... who will do the move? 2018-01-13T12:11:10-0200 <catonano> adfeno: I will ;-) 2018-01-13T12:11:23-0200 <adfeno> Oh OK thanks catonano ;) [...] 2018-01-13T12:49:46-0200 <catonano> adfeno: I wrote on the dev ml [...] 2018-01-13T12:56:24-0200 <adfeno> catonano: OK ;) 2018-01-13T12:56:31-0200 <adfeno> Thanks! :D --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- 2018-01-13T15:47:21+0100 Catonano wrote: > This project > > http://etoileos.com/etoile/features/languagekit/ > > targets llvm > > As far as I understand it doesn't target llvm too. It targets llvm _only_ > > If I understand correctly, it aims to make dinamic languages wrap the GNUStep > kernel > > Sort of like Guile does > > I know what Stallmand wrote about llvm > > But what does this mean for Guix ? > > Is LanguageKit acceptable in Guix ? > > Is it worth to ask the Etoile devs about this choice of theirs ? > Could it be that they can help in making LanguageKit work with the GCC ? > > Thanks -- - https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno - Palestrante e consultor sobre /software/ livre (não confundir com gratis). - "WhatsApp"? Ele não é livre. Por favor, veja formas de se comunicar instantaneamente comigo no endereço abaixo. - Contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard - Arquivos comuns aceitos (apenas sem DRM): Corel Draw, Microsoft Office, MP3, MP4, WMA, WMV. - Arquivos comuns aceitos e enviados: CSV, GNU Dia, GNU Emacs Org, GNU GIMP, Inkscape SVG, JPG, LibreOffice (padrão ODF), OGG, OPUS, PDF (apenas sem DRM), PNG, TXT, WEBM.
