Hi, Mark H Weaver <m...@netris.org> writes:
> Alex Vong <alexvong1...@gmail.com> writes: > >> ng0 <n...@we.make.ritual.n0.is> writes: >> >>> Alex Vong <alexvong1...@gmail.com> writes: >>> >>>> Finally, I agree that icecat could switch to tor browser as its upstream. >>> >>> Maybe you want to help me out with writing the email / post to >>> torproject: >>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg00326.html >>> >>> On second note, maybe this is message should be addressed to both >>> torproject and icecat developer(s). What do you think? I have no fixed >>> plan in mind for this. >>> >> Hmm, maybe I will give my (rough) idea here. In my opinion, icecat has 2 >> important features, librejs (gpl3+) and the lack of non-free addons >> suggestion. > > We would also need to remove Firefox support for DRM (e.g. EME), avoid > steering users to non-free media codecs, and maybe some other things to > meet the requirements of the GNU FSDG. > > I suspect that these changes are substantial enough that we'll need to > change the branding, and avoid using the Firefox trademark, but I'm not > sure. I think there's a need to change the branding. Gentoo ships a firefox with a huge patchset applied and uses a branding with some changes (Aurora). I'd like to get the icecat developer involved in the discussion at some point, to get additional input and find out where help is needed. I think the same idea like for many projects applies for Icecat: when you get involved, bugfixing is faster. Icecat has the bug of being based on an insecure firefox version - let's help to move it somewhere safe. >> For librejs, TBB already have noscripts, although they serve different >> purposes (librejs intends to block non-free js only), I doubt devs would >> want to include 2 js blocker addons. But I think html5 everyhere will be >> a good addon for TBB since most html5 player requires js. Currently, >> enabling noscript breaks most video-playing sites. >> >> For the lack of non-free addons suggestion, TBB recommends not to >> install addon, but the addon page is still there, which suggest non-free >> addons. I don't really know what should we do here. > > The IceCat project maintains a page of free addons. I guess we should > use that. With our gentoo overlay, we started to include addons to be installed from outside the mozilla addon store, as the gentoo firefox is configured to have a system controlled addon location. Now starting with FF 48, addons will only be able to be installed from the official FF store, but I think this setting can be turned off hopefully. We (ybti overlay) discussed a similar approach for Guix, to configure firefox based browsers (and others) to additionally use addons from Guix, to allow more control of what's included etc. > I agree that the best outcome would be for IceCat to switch to Tor > Browser as its upstream, Agreed, but... > or at least to borrow heavily from their patch > set. > ...maybe that is not completely necessary, the bugtracker link of firefox which I was passed recently shows that firefox and torbrowser want to upstream the patchset of torbrowser. > Thanks, > Mark -- ♥Ⓐ ng0 For non-prism friendly talk find me on http://www.psyced.org
