On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 06:02:48PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > > I think I have covered that both in my writeup and in my response to > > Ben. I think this work should be accepted as is. > > I find this unfair. You are not a newcomer, as proved by the fact that > you’ve already identified weaknesses in the work you submit.
Exactly. > Thus, that you post it anyway can be understood as “I know this and that > should be done, but I’d rather let you do it on my behalf, kthxbye”. > > Or perhaps you’re suggesting that reviews are unnecessary, or that the > points we insist on make little sense? If have explained things why they are as they are with the Elixir package. I have done my utmost to get the package to this stage. There is some work pending fixing tests with upstream. All that is in the open and happening. > Well, I can tell you that as a user, I very much prefer that people who > add packages to the distro have taken their time to make it lean and > clean. This QA work that you dislike is a service that we developers do > to users; it’s not something we do for the sake of elitism. > > I hope this can clear misunderstandings! Thanks Ludo. As it stands I am no longer submitting packages to ML. I did my utmost to make the package lean and clean. This package is not going in. But, I suggest you listen. I know at least 4 people here who say they have trouble submitting to Guix. Good people. You know I love Guix and I am a great admirer of all of you and I certainly appreciate the energy you put into developing Guix and reviews. I won't go away, but I am making clear why I am quitting working in this way. Mind, I saw this coming. I actually quit submitting packages half a year ago and instead worked through others. I was interested to see if I would survive this one last attempt. In the end my opinion on the state of the package conflicts with yours - even though I am the expert on Elixir here and the conflict is not about knowledge of Guix itself. Please read this last sentence again. I'll have a think on how to proceed from here. I want to work with those 4 people. And I want to attract more people from conda, brew etc. I am convinced we need to change our ways. This state of affairs does not sit well with me. To call it elitist was a provocation, but I actually think there is some truth to it. The world is divided in people who can do the dance, and those who can't (for whatever reason). We need to find a way where the lesser people (like me) can contribute. Now, THAT would make it a brilliant project. Pj.
