On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 06:48:47AM +0200, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote: > In the spirit of (friendly) provocation, I'd nitpick on the term > ‘purist views’ and suggest the word ‘standards’ instead. ;-)
Alright. I concede ;) > But seriously: the code reviews? Most Free software projects don't > do nearly enough. Also, most Free software projects su^W should. The number of contributors is not going up as fast as it should. I have been quite exasparated with every package I submitted. Does that mean I should stop packaging? Note that I actually like packaging, but I feel mentally blocked to submit to the ML... Should we really leave it to those that are more inclined to do the dance? > >license, github etc. > > I've not seen any licence purism (yet) either. Anything Free, goes. > No? Yes, but there are also non-free packages in our repo. They do not have to go in GNU Guix. I am a great fan of the FSF and GNU. I think GNU Guix is pure genius. I always choose free over non-free. But we also have to be pragmatic. > I'm curious why GitHub's in that list. Sure, the upstream Guix > repository isn't going to move there any time soon. There's no > compelling reason to do so, and not relying on someone else's > good-will is always a good idea. Not relying on someone else's > proprietary secret SaaS is simply common sense. But I haven't > seen any purist elitism towards GitHub users. I'm one. People don't like github because it is non-free. > >I understand the need for purism, and applaud the idea, but we are > >throwing up too many barriers. > > > >Because GNU Guix is an extreme, ... > > Wow. I don't see that. At all. Everything FSF and/or GNU is pretty extreme ;). It is a good thing. I buy into it when I can. Barriers are there. Everyone is different, we have to cater for that. > As long as it's not a fork in any way: yes please! We should consider a separate project that is aligned with trunk. I don't want to divert, but to add to both. Yellow-band Guix? With a Judoka embracing the Guix logo ;). 'A Guix package project without an opinion' would be my choice of a slogan. Judo instead of dancing. I am not looking forward to having a separate project, but I don't see much of an alternative. There will be a fear that actualy contributions to GNU Guix can go down - there is that risk - but my aim is to get more acceptance and contributors and eventually we all gain. I am not worried about QA. Work can be self correcting - we see that a lot. I had a mug that said 'Stop me before I volunteer again'. This is one of those moments... But I may just do it. Pj.
