yoo...@gmail.com skribis: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:51 AM, Ludovic Courtès <l...@gnu.org> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> yoo...@gmail.com skribis:
[...] >> > - Add at least one more sub-section to "System Installation" that >> > introduces users to extending/customizing the initial system's .scm file >> > -- Something like a "Where to go from here? Customizing your >> installation." >> > -- A chance to tease users in to Scheme programming >> >> Makes sense. The “Using the Configuration System” section was intended >> to achieve this, but maybe it’s failing. Do you think it could be >> improved, or is a new section needed, and if so, how should we >> articulate both? >> > > I might be viewing this from the wrong angle.. Maybe what's needed is not > necessarily different instructions, but more pointers to the existing > instructions :) Maybe! If you have ideas of what pointers to put where, that’s even better. :-) > Can we put some comments in the current example configs to point to existing > documentation? > > e.g.: > > diff --git a/gnu/system/examples/bare-bones.tmpl > b/gnu/system/examples/bare-bones.tmpl > index 87e8d1e..811a6c3 100644 > --- a/gnu/system/examples/bare-bones.tmpl > +++ b/gnu/system/examples/bare-bones.tmpl > @@ -38,6 +38,8 @@ > %base-user-accounts)) > > ;; Globally-installed packages. > + ;; See the "System Configuration"/"Globally-Visible Packages" > + ;; section in the Guix manual for more info > (packages (cons tcpdump %base-packages)) The problem is that these files are included in the manual, so it would seem awkward IMO to give the section name here. Not sure what to do here. > Something else I'm probably just missing.. Is there a way to enumerate > %base-packages from the command line? I've seen you (Ludo) do this a few > times in the videos but I don't recall a mention of instructions for > configuring > this setup. This can be done from a Guile “read-eval-print loop” (REPL): --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guile GNU Guile 2.0.11.156-c3f95-dirty Copyright (C) 1995-2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Guile comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `,show w'. This program is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `,show c' for details. Enter `,help' for help. scheme@(guile-user)> ,use(gnu) scheme@(guile-user)> %base-packages $1 = (#<package procps-3.2.8 gnu/packages/linux.scm:457 3830e40> #<package psmisc-22.20 gnu/packages/linux.scm:368 3eeb000> #<package which-2.21 gnu/packages/base.scm:683 37b8600> #<package less-451 gnu/packages/less.scm:27 36f0e40> #<package zile-2.4.11 gnu/packages/zile.scm:33 37b8180> #<package nano-2.4.2 gnu/packages/nano.scm:28 39f13c0> #<package dmd-0.2.01 gnu/packages/admin.scm:65 39d7cc0> #<package guix-0.8.3.5d09263 gnu/packages/package-management.scm:180 37b83c0> #<package lsof-4.88 gnu/packages/lsof.scm:30 37b80c0> #<package pciutils-3.2.0 gnu/packages/pciutils.scm:29 300e000> #<package usbutils-006 gnu/packages/linux.scm:524 3830d80> #<package util-linux-2.25.2 gnu/packages/linux.scm:391 3830f00> #<package inetutils-1.9.4 gnu/packages/admin.scm:168 39d79c0> #<package isc-dhcp-4.3.1 gnu/packages/admin.scm:391 39d7540> #<package iw-3.17 gnu/packages/linux.scm:1137 38300c0> #<package wireless-tools-30.pre9 gnu/packages/linux.scm:1705 3881540> #<package net-tools-1.60 gnu/packages/linux.scm:927 38303c0> #<package man-db-2.7.1 gnu/packages/man.scm:58 36f0c00> #<package sudo-1.8.10p3 gnu/packages/admin.scm:647 39d70c0> #<package kmod-17 gnu/packages/linux.scm:1528 3881780> #<package eudev-2.1.1 gnu/packages/linux.scm:1573 38816c0> #<package e2fsprogs-1.42.13 gnu/packages/linux.scm:548 3830cc0> #<package kbd-2.0.2 gnu/packages/linux.scm:1450 3881900> #<package bash-completion-2.1 gnu/packages/bash.scm:243 3260540> #<package guile-2.0.11 gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm:145 3f8ed80> #<package bash-4.3.39 gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm:145 3f8ef00> #<package coreutils-8.24 gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm:145 3f8e900> #<package findutils-4.4.2 gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm:145 3f919c0> #<package grep-2.21 gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm:145 3f8e780> #<package sed-4.2.2 gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm:145 3f91b40> #<package diffutils-3.3 gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm:145 3f91e40> #<package patch-2.7.5 gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm:145 3f91cc0> #<package gawk-4.1.3 gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm:145 3f91840> #<package tar-1.28 gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm:145 3f8e600> #<package gzip-1.6 gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm:145 3f8e480> #<package bzip2-1.0.6 gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm:145 3f8e300> #<package xz-5.0.4 gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm:145 3f8e180> #<package lzip-1.16 gnu/packages/compression.scm:301 3054000>) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Or as a one-liner: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guile -c '(use-modules (gnu) (guix)) (pk (map package-full-name %base-packages))' ;;; (("procps-3.2.8" "psmisc-22.20" "which-2.21" "less-451" "zile-2.4.11" "nano-2.4.2" "dmd-0.2.01" "guix-0.8.3.5d09263" "lsof-4.88" "pciutils-3.2.0" "usbutils-006" "util-linux-2.25.2" "inetutils-1.9.4" "isc-dhcp-4.3.1" "iw-3.17" "wireless-tools-30.pre9" "net-tools-1.60" "man-db-2.7.1" "sudo-1.8.10p3" "kmod-17" "eudev-2.1.1" "e2fsprogs-1.42.13" "kbd-2.0.2" "bash-completion-2.1" "guile-2.0.11" "bash-4.3.39" "coreutils-8.24" "findutils-4.4.2" "grep-2.21" "sed-4.2.2" "diffutils-3.3" "patch-2.7.5" "gawk-4.1.3" "tar-1.28" "gzip-1.6" "bzip2-1.0.6" "xz-5.0.4" "lzip-1.16")) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- HTH! Ludo’.