Srayan Jana <srayan.j...@outlook.com> writes: > 1. > I sure wish that Guix pack appimage was in the documentation online lol. The > only reference I could find was a random issue closing the PR for it. >
Make sure you’re looking at the devel version of the manual: <https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/html_node/Invoking-guix-pack.html#index-AppImage_002c-create-an-AppImage-file-with-guix-pack-1>. > 2. > i can’t find any good tutorials on how to create a guix package using guile. > Most stuff I find is using Makefiles/Autoconf and C. > Look into the guile-xyz.scm file in the guix source for examples with guile-build-system. > 3. > Something I’m thinking about using Guile for is for stuff like ios/android > stuff (and, massive pipe dream, game consoles like the Nintendo Switch). Is > that compatible with LGPL? > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ________________________________ > From: Matt Wette <matt.we...@gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2025 10:49:48 AM > To: Noé Lopez <noelo...@free.fr>; guile-devel@gnu.org <guile-devel@gnu.org>; > Srayan Jana <srayan.j...@outlook.com> > Subject: Re: [Feature Request/Postmortem] Adding a way to compile GNU Guile > scripts to a standalone executable > > Just FYI, I have played with generating standalone executables. > See experimential code at https://github.com/mwette/guile-freezer > This code now will bind non-system modules into an executable: > it converts your .go module files into .o files (containing binary data) > that are loaded during startup. > > Two issues: > 1) Guile is LPGL so I don't see how one can distribute standalone > executables w/o distributing > all the means to re-build. For example, including > ice-9/boot-9.go. Do people want to do this? > 2) Guile-freezer does not work with loading in ice-9/boot-9 and friends: > there are some incompatibilities > with the startup code (e.g. how scm_ice_9_already_loaded is set). > > Matt > > On 8/12/25 2:33 AM, Noé Lopez wrote: >>> That didn't turn out well since Guile relies so much on Guix. And Guix >>> dumps the binaries it compiles into /gnu/store and not inside of my CMake >>> project, which is not good. >>> >>> Besides, I also feel like using CMake is a losing battle anyways, since it >>> would tie it to a C++ build system. Instead, what I'd probably want to do >>> is have a guile script that runs and builds everything together. >>> Fortunately, there is prior art: >>> https://git.dthompson.us/chickadee/tree/chickadee/cli/bundle.scm, which was >>> used for davexunit.itch.io/bonnie-bee<https://davexunit.itch.io/bonnie-bee> >>> https://davexunit.itch.io/super-bloom >>> >>> The big problem I can think of when it comes to making a more generalized >>> guile build system is that guile relies heavily on the Guix ecosystem, and >>> everything in Guix is installed globally in /gnu/store. (Unless you do guix >>> pack -RR of course). I don't know Guix SUPER well, but I think you could >>> probably have your guile script inside a guix pack, and then run the script >>> once you unzip it. However, I don't think that would work on windows, and >>> also isn't the one-click executable I want. >>> >> guix pack -f appimage would do the one-click executable for linux. >> >>> So I guess after all of this, I really want to hear your thoughts on this >>> effort. Should I keep trying to make this work? I'd love to submit a Pull >>> Request at some point making this all work, but I want to know where I >>> should put my attention into. >>> >> It sounds like a cool idea! I haven’t looked at what you have in detail >> but consider that making it as an AppImage would work well for Linux, I >> don’t know much about windows but I suppose there exists similar >> container formats in which you can put your guile binary and scripts and >> have it execute seemlessly. >> >> The advantage of AppImage instead of having to code your own bootstrap.c >> is that it will be able to load dynamic libraries as well as guile >> scripts from a SquashFS archive that is contained in the binary. >> >> I think a good way forward would be to extend chickadee’s bundle to >> generate AppImages instead of tarballs. >> >> Good day! >> Noé
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