Hi,

Maxime Devos <maximede...@telenet.be> skribis:

> On 02-08-2022 09:59, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>>>> +      (if (module-defined? (resolve-interface '(gnutls))
>>>> +                           'set-session-record-port-close!) ;GnuTLS >= 
>>>> 3.7.7
>>> resolve-module (and presumably also sets #:ensure #t by default, which
>>> sometimes causes 'module not found' messages to be replaced by
>>> 'unbound variable', which I don't think is useful behaviour, can
>>> #:ensure be set to #false?
>> This is unnecessary: see the ‘load-gnutls’ mechanism there.  The idiom
>> above is already used in a couple of places.
>
> I have looked at the 'load-gnutls' procedure, but I do not see how it
> avoids the issue I mentioned (*).

[...]

> (*) The autoloading of gnutls in load-gnutls avoids compilation errors
> when gnutls is absent, but by the way it does it, it causes the module
> to be registered as 'it exists' even when it doesn't, so the
> information in the module system of Guix becomes incorrect.

I understand what you’re saying (I’m quite familiar with Guile’s module
system :-) and I do agree that #:ensure #t can lead to bad surprises),
but I don’t think this is correct:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
scheme@(guile-user)> (resolve-interface '(xxx))
ice-9/boot-9.scm:1685:16: In procedure raise-exception:
no code for module (xxx)

Entering a new prompt.  Type `,bt' for a backtrace or `,q' to continue.
scheme@(guile-user) [1]> ,q
scheme@(guile-user)> (resolve-module '(xxx) #f #:ensure #f)
$1 = #f
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

This is because ‘resolve-interface’ does (resolve-module … #:ensure #f).

Does that make sense?

Thanks,
Ludo’.

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