Mark,

That totally make sense.  I understand.

As it stands now, the document will need to be reformatted.  Can be
attached to a email to the mailing list, and still be archived? Or should I
paste it inline?

Chad

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Chad Albers

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Mark H Weaver <m...@netris.org> wrote:

> Chad Albers <calb...@neomantic.com> writes:
>
> > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Mark H Weaver <m...@netris.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  I would thank you for this, but I cannot even view it without running
> >  nonfree software on my machine. Posting this link essentially puts
> >  pressure on those who wish to have a voice in this discussion to use
> >  nonfree software, and excludes those who take a principled stand against
> >  using nonfree software. That's not good.
> >
> >  > (I apologize that it's a google document. I couldn't find a
> >  > comparable,free software online collaborative alternative. suggestions
> >  > are welcome).
> >
> >  We must not collaborate on a platform where using nonfree software is a
> >  prerequisite for entry.
> >
> >  Can you please send it in email as plain text?
> >
> >
> > I adamantly agree with your sentiments. The ideal solution in my
> > opinion would be a wikipage, so people could comment. Does anyone have
> > access to one that we all could also read, without having to create a
> > user-account (bonus points)?
>
> Another issue is that it would be good for this discussion, as well as
> the drafts of your proposal, counterproposals, etc, to be archived
> somewhere that we can be reasonably confident will still exist and be
> easy to find in 20 years or more.
>
> If we use a collaborative document editor implemented in Javascript,
> then participants in the discussion will have no good choice but to use
> that one centralized tool to edit the proposal, write comments, etc, and
> I'm doubtful that the history of edits, draft proposals and discussion
> will be easily reviewable in 20 years.
>
> We have a long history of making proposals, revising them, and
> discussing them here on the mailing list in plain text.  This not only
> ensures that all of the relevant information is archived, but also
> allows people to use their preferred email client and text editor to
> modify the proposals and respond to them.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
>     Thanks,
>       Mark
>

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