Its been long time since I've posted to gtk-app-devel-list, this is the best joke ever! I'd eat my cheap keyboard for other post like this.
Ardhan On Sunday, April 17, 2016, Andrew Robinson <arobinso...@cox.net> wrote: > To all my fellow developers, > > I can see that I am not going to get anywhere with anyone in this group > regarding my GTK issue, so I am abandoning my GTK+ project and moving on > because it was a critical problem. But before I move on, I think other > programmers like myself should know why I choose GTK+ in the first place. > > Good things about GTK+: > > 1) Cross-OS. I can use it on Mac, Windows, and Linux. All I need to do is > change linkers to do so. > > 2) Glade. Even a programmer wannabee could almost learn how to make > cross-OS > programs using Glade. I especially like how you could use it with the > gtk_builder() functions. I will really, really miss this part of GTK. > > 3) Simplicity. It is far, far easier to program the GTK+ GUI than it is > with > the Windows or Mac GUI. The code is smaller, has less bloat, is consistent > in > it's use of functions, and is therefore far easier to read. > > 4) Mature. It has all the functionality you need. Nice looking components, > themes, etc. Thoroughly documented as it should be. > > Bad things about GTK+: > > 1) Not exactly end-user friendly. I could package the GTK+ runtimes with my > application, but it would turn my little tiny program into a massive > download. > I could avoid this by telling my end-users to install GTK+ for themselves, > but > the vast majority of end-users are not programmers and do not want to have > to > perform the necessary steps to install a compiler to use to compile the > GTK+ > libraries. Grandmama and grandpapa just want everything to be plug and > play, > and GTK+ is definitely not plug and play. > > 2) Not exactly programmer friendly. Because of number one above, I would > have > to create another project just to provide another application to install > GTK+, > or I would have to create a horrible-to-maintain manual for end-users to > install GTK+ that would be too complicated for most grandmamas and > grandpapas > to understand anyways. > > 3) Licensing. If I provide my own installer for the GTK+ libraries, I will > have to provide and maintain my own separate copy of the code. This is way > too > much work for such a simple thing. > > 4) Little to no community support. This forum was a perfect example of > that, > but it isn't just GTK, it is the entire Linux community. I remember running > into a problem with Ubuntu when it first came out. If I lost power or > accidentally removed my USB stick before unmounting it, it would brick my > stick and only a Windows computer could unbrick it (with Window's scan and > repair, which Ubuntu couldn't do because it said the stick had an "unknown > file system"). The community response was horrid. I had a workaround but > Ubuntu never got it fixed to my knowledge. > > 5) Scary group. Like Microsoft and their dramatic move from Win7 to Win8, > GTK > had a winning formula but then threw it all away and started from scratch > again. If you have a winning formula, stick to it!! GTK got lucky because > GTK3 > appears to be just as good as GTK2, but their dramatic move caused a loss > of > customers, just like Win8 and Win10 has or will. It also makes me leery of > the > GTK project leaders because how do we know they won't throw GTK3 out the > window with the next release of GTK4, making all my previous programs > obsolete? > > With the release of Win8 and Win10, I *WILL* abandon Windows. Microsoft has > abandoned me, a loyal customer, for what I think are purely profit based > reasons, so I will abandon them. But where to go? While there is a lot to > like > about Linux, there is a lot to dislike about it too, so it is the lessor of > two evils instead of an actual choice. Mac is very good but way too > expensive > and has limited hardware. Imagine trying to create a startup up on a > limited > budget, and equipping all your users with a Mac. You could go broke before > you > even started. You can develop custom hardware, but it can only be USB or > Bluetooth based only. Good luck trying to develop any other type of > hardware > to run on a Mac. And if you find a programming issue with a Mac, good luck > trying to get them to admit it or change it, unless you are a multi-billion > dollar corp. > > So I am becoming homeless in the OS world, with no one to turn to and > nowhere > to go. But in the meantime, I can pretend to still be going somewhere > eventually, hence the reason for turning to GTK. But with that out of the > picture, my current choices are: AntTweakBar, MyGuy, Agar, QT, oZone, > MiniGUI, > Awesome, Awesomium, Crazy Eddies' GUI, OpenGUI, and TK. There are many > more, > but these are the only ones I am going to look at. > > Wish me luck and I will wish you luck, > > Andrew > > _______________________________________________ > gtk-app-devel-list mailing list > gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org <javascript:;> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-app-devel-list > _______________________________________________ gtk-app-devel-list mailing list gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-app-devel-list
