I understand your frustration and I share it and will try to do as much as
reasonable to decrease amount of carried patches. Rust experiments do not
and should not take over release and patch integration work. They are
independent and effort for rust is minimal. Please put discussion about
topics other than Rust in a different thread.

Le sam. 22 mars 2025, 16:43, Didier Spaier via Grub-devel <
grub-devel@gnu.org> a écrit :

> On 22/03/2025 09:42, Maxim Fomin wrote:
> > On Friday, March 21st, 2025 at 8:51 PM, Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko <
> phco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello, I was playing with adding Rust embedded in GRUB. I’ve pushed
> results to 2 repos:
> >> Module goes to https://github.com/phcoder/grub-rust-hello/tree/master
> >> Changes in GRUB are found at https://github.com/phcoder/GRUB/tree/rust
> >> Notes on implementation:
> >> Only i386-pc is implemented right now but it’s not a technical limit,
> just others are not implemented yet.
> >> I changed GRUB to use ET_DYN (.so) binaries as modules instead of
> ET_REL (.o).
> >> I disabled mregparm=3. -Z regparm=3 in Rust generally works but the
> calls to memcpy() still uses regparm=0 calling convention. Perhaps it’s a
> bug on Rust side, perhaps we need an adapter on our side.
> >> It’s compiled with panic=abort. Unwinding panics require
> rust_eh_personality that isn’t implemented yet.
> >> src/lib.rs is an example of hello world and grub_lib.rs is a grub-rust
> adapter. Ideally they should be in separate crates
> >> Every module now pulls in rust runtime. Idk how to switch to a shared
> runtime
> >> Consider it more an experiment and request for comments than a working
> product. I would be interested to hear any comments. Especially it’s
> interesting to hear from Rust folks as to how to make it more idiomatic
> Rust.
> >
> > I found it indicative that the post about introducing Rust into the
> project lacks any technical discussion about the merits of doing so. This
> agrees with the Rust criticism point that bringing Rust into project is
> often caused by programmers wanting to show off ("me/project is cool
> because it has Rust") rather than technical merits.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Maxim Fomin
>
> Hello,
>
> by lack of knowledge I have no idea about merits of rust compared to any
> other
> programming language.
>
> Generally speaking my wish as an end user and packager is that providing a
> new
> stable release takes priority over any enhancement or addition of new
> features.
>
> Maybe not an issue for Debian, but how many distributions have the
> resources
> needed to check and carry hundreds of patches?
>
> Cheers,
> Didier
>
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