Hi Sumant,
Zero timeout alarms is not a common case (Vijay can correct me here) and so
it wouldn't make sense to special-case this.

-Sree

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:37 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Sree,
>
> Whoa! This behavior is such a gotcha. It seem you are saying
> immediately-firing alarms don't in fact "fire immediately", Right? Naively
> one would think that zero-deadline alarms would be optimized and would be
> queued right-away as there's no apparent reason for using a timer. That's
> just me though.
>
> Is it worth adding such an optimization in gRPC core?
>
> Thx a bunch for answering such a nuanced question promptly.
>
> Regards,
> Sumant
>
> On Friday, February 15, 2019 at 10:56:08 AM UTC-8, Sree Kuchibhotla wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sumant,
>> If you create two alarms with zero timeout in quick succession, then they
>> may not "fire" in the same order you created - and hence FIFO isn't
>> guaranteed here. However, if the alarms are created reasonably spaced apart
>> (like for example: tens of millis apart), then yes -they fire in FIFO.
>> (Note that an alarm underneath creates a timer which when fired queues
>> the completion event in the completion queue. So we are really at the mercy
>> of the grpc timer component.)..
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>> -Sree
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 10:29 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Vijay,
>>>
>>> Just confirming that FIFO ordering of immediately-firing alarms is
>>> guaranteed by the complete_queue. Right?
>>>
>>> -Sumant
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 8:10:39 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Vijay,
>>>>
>>>> 3,000,000 per second rocks!
>>>> Thx much everyone!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sumant
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 8:43:53 AM UTC-8, Vijay Pai wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just created a pull request to benchmark immediately-firing alarms.
>>>>> The results on my Mac laptop suggest that you can fire at least
>>>>> 3,000,000 immediate alarms per second on a single thread, so I don't think
>>>>> you'll hit a limit from that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would strongly advise against directly using
>>>>> grpc_cq_begin_op/grpc_cq_end_op . Those are internal functions and will
>>>>> change name/behavior whenever we choose.
>>>>>
>>>>> I should have some more information to announce on the callback API
>>>>> within the next few weeks but we continue to prepare it for
>>>>> production-readiness in both unary and streaming cases.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Vijay
>>>>>
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