On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Christian Walde <walde.christ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:45:44 +0200, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Christian Walde < > walde.christ...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:22:34 +0200, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 4:49 AM, <walde.christ...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> There's one argument unmentioned here, and i suspect it wasn't mentioned >>> yet because Tucker is too polite to do so. I however, having been burned >>> many ways by Mozilla's "governance", have no reason to be polite about it. >>> >>> The addition of things like Hello and Pocket in FF core* deserves only a >>> single description: >>> >>> Hypocrisy. >>> >>> Mozilla removed features that were core in FF, and would've been core in >>> *any* browser; while arguing those features could be re-added as extensions. >>> >> >> I'm trying to figure out how you think this applies to Hello. The WebRTC >> functionality in Firefox that Hello makes use of is still there and >> continues >> to be improved. >> >> >> As far as i can tell: >> >> WebRTC is an API, which of course belongs into core. >> >> Hello is a user interface, which should've been an extension. >> >> Or is it not be possible to implement an extension that duplicates >> Hello's functionality and makes use of the WebRTC api? >> > > Yes, it is probably possible to implement an extension that duplicate's > Hello's functionality. I don't think it follows from that that it's not > appropriate > to ship it as part of Firefox. > > > Thanks for confirming that my line of thought is correct on the > implementability of Hello as an extension. > > That said, you may think it does not follow, but given that you do not > explain why you think this, there is not much of a conversation to be had, > and your ability to convince is zero as of now. > I'm not trying to convince you. You made an assertion that I don't think is convincing and I said so. > As i stated in my original email, given their explanation of earlier > removals, it is hypocritical of Mozilla to implement functionality in core > that could be implemented in an extension instead. > I'm not really sure what earlier removals you're referring to, but there's absolutely nothing contradictory about taking some features that could be implemented in extensions and putting them in the main product while requiring that other features to be implemented in extensions. Rather, it's a product judgement about which features are of the widest general interest and the best fit for being part of the main product as shipped. -Ekr _______________________________________________ governance mailing list governance@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
