>About the 50k limit... any way you can give me an idea of how many
>YahooGroups messages might be bounced for that?

In the last three hours mail-archive has rejected 64 messages due to
size, 62 of which came from YahooGroups. This is a particularly slow
time of the day/week.

>Or perhaps the list names which routinely exceed that limit? I know
>that most of the messages on the lists that I have archived at
>Mail-Archive (several dozen lists between YahooGroups and Topica :))
>would fall into the 2-4k category but there might be others with
>larger sizes, I could try to contact those....

These are lists where every message has a large binary attachment,
typically one or more JPEG images. I guarantee the list administrators
will be uncontactable. These lists ignore bounces, and I have no known
way of unsubscribing mail-archive from them. Nor do I particularly
want to baby-sit this type of thing.

The size limit is not a great solution, however, as it causes trouble
for lists which only occasionally have a large message (the postmaster
of vger, which runs many technical mail lists, recently complained to
me about this).

>PS: if you have any comments you would like for me to share with the list
>owners on my ListHelp list please feel free to let me know.

You are welcome to share whatever you wish. At this point, any
interoperability problems with YahooGroups/Mail-Archive is on their
end. I may eventually decide to completely ban YahooGroups from using
the mail-archive service in the future.

My biggest gripes are:

1) YahooGroups is a major spam and abuse haven. This wastes my
   resources (bandwidth, disk space) and sometimes I get misdirected
   complaints.

2) On more than zero occasions, someone has maliciously added
   [email protected] to a private YahooGroups list. I really, really
   wish YahooGroups would add "Restrict: No-External-Archive" headers
   to their messages from private lists, as this would prevent an
   entire category of abuse and confusion.

Cheers,
Jeff









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