Exactly. Managed VMs are great for some applications, but not a replacement for the managed runtimes. The idea of App Engine is simplicity & zero-configuration (or at least as close to it as possible). Instead, Managed VMs seem to throw a lot of that back on the user's lap. I don't want to 'dockerize' my apps and start managing my own runtimes.
The Python 2 to 3 transitions is great example where a public roadmap would be very useful. They could state they'll have a Python 3 runtime ready in 2017 and then have a 3 year transition period and stop the Python 2 runtime in 2020. On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 1:18:48 PM UTC+2, Jay Kyburz wrote: > > A port to a managed VM is a whole nother kettle of fish. If I do that I'm > managing my own servers and might as well move anywhere. > > The simple fact is that 2.7 is on the way out, and if I want to continue > to work in Python, I need a 5 year plan that has me port my applications to > Python 3. > > My question to Google is, will I be working on App Engine, or do I have to > go find another solution. > > > > On Saturday, 18 April 2015 19:19:54 UTC+10, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: >> >> You can run Python3 already with Managed VMs, although the experience >> today does not compare favorably to traditional GAE. I suspect the best >> course of action is to file usability bugs against managed VMs until they >> work as well or better than what you're used to. More specific is better. >> >> Jeff >> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Jay Kyburz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hello Googlers, >>> >>> There is an interesting discussion today on Hacker News about how Debian >>> has started moving from P2 to P3 because of the looming EOL deadline in >>> 2020. >>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9388502 >>> >>> Does anybody know if there are plans in the works to provide a Python 3 >>> implementation of App Engine I can port my apps to sometime in the next 5 >>> years. I've been searching around but can find nothing. >>> >>> 5 years may sound like a long time to many of you, but the last 5 years >>> of using App Engine have seemed to fly by for me. >>> >>> I have a lot of code to port and it might be a biggish job. >>> >>> If Google is looking for more staff to handle the port I would be happy >>> to contribute. >>> >>> Jay. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/a336be6a-f0e3-487f-aa4c-36dd8c1117c5%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/a336be6a-f0e3-487f-aa4c-36dd8c1117c5%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/8c465186-d499-4df2-abf4-2551e16060eb%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
