On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 3:07:35 PM UTC-7, Richard Arrano wrote:
>
> Thank you for the quick and very informative reply. I wasn't even 
> aware this was possible with NDB. How would those x.yref.get() calls 
> show up in AppStats? Or would they at all if it's just pulling it from 
> memory? 
>

If they pull from memory they don't show up in Appstats at all. Otherwise 
they'll probably look like a memcache Get possibly followed by a datastore 
Get.
 

> Thank you Kaan as well, I will actually experiment with the 
> PickleProperty and see what's faster. I like that solution because the 
> X kind is not one I expect to be heavily cached so I don't mind 
> actually caching the pickled instance as I expect them to be evicted 
> within a relatively short amount of time. 
>

If you're considering storing a pickled entity, you should look into 
LocalStructuredProperty, which is a little bit more efficient (but doesn't 
store the key).
 

> I also wanted to ask: I saw someone did a speed test with NDB and I 
> noticed he was pulling 500 entities of 40K and in the worst-case 0% 
> cache hit scenario, it took something like 8-10 seconds. I was 
> actually planning to have a piece of my application regularly query 
> and cache ~2500 entities(of 2500) and sort on it to avoid a huge 
> amount of indices(and a NOT IN filter that would really slow things 
> down). Is this feasible or would you expect his results to scale, i.e. 
> 500 entities with 0% cache hits * 5 ~= 40-50s in my usage scenario? Or 
> was there something unique to his situation with his indices and large 
> amount of data? In mine each entity has about 10 properties with zero 
> indices. If this is the case I'll probably copy the entities into a 
> JsonProperty that occasionally gets updated and simply query/cache 
> that since I don't expect the 2500 entities to change very often. 
>

There are too many unknown variables here. You're best off benchmarking 
this yourself... 

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