The flip side of this argument is that by typing in a username &
password on a zillion websites, your credentials are exposed when any
of those websites are compromised.

Some people argue that you should use a unique username and password
on each site.  Those people live in a fantasy world populated with an
entirely different species of human than the one I live in.  The
"average internet user" uses the same password for banking as they do
for their porn viewing, and it will take maoist-style re-education
camps to change that.

Nothing stops you from creating separate moogle accounts for various
services, so *your* security is not compromised in any way.  But
taking passwords out of the hands of crappy PHP forums around the
world would be a big step in making the internet as a whole more
secure.

Also:  Since all those services have "reset password" features
associated with your email address, even having separate
username/passwords for each doesn't really get you any additional
security.  It all comes down to securing the email address.  BrowserID
is rad because it's a more elegant way of handling this email address
association.

Jeff

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't like Browser ID, OpenID, Oauth solutions because I can put a form on
> a page that looks just like one, get your pass, and then look at which sites
> you have cookies for and instantly know which sites I have your User/Pass
> for.
>
> Unified login might be fine for protecting your Facebook... but SOME COMPANY
> I won't say who but it rhymes with Moogle.  Recently unified my logins so
> where I used to have a Password for my Mail, a Password for my YouTube, a
> Password for my Adsense, and a Password for Adwords.  Today if you hack my
> Plus account you could spend $100k on adwords against your website, making
> me poorer, and you richer.
>
> Unified Login is for convenience not security.  You might as well guard your
> site with a note that says "do not hack me it isn't nice"
>
> -Brandon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:26 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: OT: Doing It Wrong
>
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
>> While we are at it - what would you suggest to be a most efficient
>> solution on App Engine? Is bcrypt too heavy?
>
> My advice is not to bother with all that crap.  Use BrowserID anywhere you
> would use a username/pw instead.
>
> I recently replaced the local username/pw part of my dual-auth system (FB
> being the other) with BrowserID.  The user experience is way better than any
> other local auth system I've seen, including ours - which was pretty damn
> nice.
>
> http://www.browserid.org/
>
> Jeff
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