Hi Barry Hunter!
If the user wants to change the Department?  How should it be? Change the
name from all Employee?

Thanks very much for this discussion!
Em 17/06/2011 16:46, "Barry Hunter" <[email protected]> escreveu:
>
> I think Ikai means, that you dont really need a 'Department' table.
>
> Just store "DepartmentName" directly as a string on your Employee model.
>
>
> In a RDBS you traditionally 'normalize' - mainly to reduce database size.
>
>
> In appengine and the datastore, you denormalize. Disk-space is 'cheap'
> so duplicating the string in every record is not really an issue.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denormalization
>
>
> Appengine is based on the premise of write once, read many, to making
> your queries 'lightweight' is important too. Completely eliminating a
> join makes the query much quicker to run.
>
>
>
> (unless you need to query on DepartmentName then you should make it as
> not-indexed, otherwise it will eat up space in the indexes)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Bruce Aloe <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The reason i need to join these two kinds is because i need to know
> > the department name that the employee works at as you can see the
> > query "List all employees's Id (EmployeeId), name (Name), salary
> > (Salary)
> > and their department name (DepartmentName) for the ones earns more
> > than 8000 US dollar".
> >
> > In SQL, i could do the query like this:
> > select  e.EmployeeId, e.Name, e.Salary, d.DepartmentName
> > from Employee e, Department d
> > where e.Salary > 8000
> >
> > That is why i need to join these two kinds.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > On Jun 16, 1:26 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> It's not clear to me why you need a join here. If you're just doing it
by
> >> Department type, why not make the "Department" field a String?
> >>
> >> Ikai Lan
> >> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Bruce Aloe <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >>
> >> > In a simple case, suppose i have two kinds (tables) stored in GAE
> >> > datastore:
> >>
> >> > Employee (EmployeeId, Name, Salary, StartDate, DepartmentId)
> >> > Department(DepartmentId, DepartmentName)
> >>
> >> > For Employee kind, EmployeeId is the unique key and DepartmentId is
> >> > the join attribute for Employee to make join with Department kind.
For
> >> > Department kind, DepartmentId is the unique key. Both Employee and
> >> > Department kinds have quite a lot of tuples, let us say, more than 3
> >> > million tuples.
> >>
> >> > There is a need to make join query over both Employee and Department
> >> > kinds in order to answer the query concerns the data from both kinds.
> >> > For example a query could be "List all employees's Id, name, salary
> >> > and their department name for the ones earns more than 8000 US
> >> > dollar".
> >>
> >> > How can i make join query among different kinds to answer the query
> >> > concerns different kinds?
> >>
> >> > Of course, there could be more than just two kinds stored in GAE
> >> > datastore. If one wants to make join query among more than two kinds,
> >> > how to handle that?
> >>
> >> > Thank you for your help!
> >>
> >> > Bruce
> >>
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