On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 1:09 AM Haoyang Fan <haoyangfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Let's say if I'm writing a program in Golang that is similar to the "top" 
> command, which rapidly reads the files under /proc directory (e.g. every 1 
> second) and I'm launching goroutines to read different parts of that 
> directory. Since /proc is a virtual filesystem not actually stored on the 
> disk, can I assume in this case there won't be any thread blocked?

Technically the threads will block briefly as they read from the /proc
file system.  However, I would expect that the time they spend blocked
would be very short, imperceptible to a 1 second loop.

Ian


> On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 12:34:38 PM UTC-7 Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 12:09 PM Haoyang Fan <haoyan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I was always under the impression that Go solely uses async I/O under the 
>> > hood so that when invoking a seemingly blocking call like os.File.Read the 
>> > underlying thread won't be blocked. Go scheduler will save the context of 
>> > current goroutine and schedule other goroutines to run on that thread. 
>> > This understanding seems to be aligned with most material I can find on 
>> > the internet.
>>
>> That is how it works for most operations. That said, since you
>> specifically mentioned os.File.Read, if the os.File is a disk file,
>> then on most Unix systems the goroutine and the underlying thread will
>> indeed block for the duration of the I/O. That is because most Unix
>> systems have no mechanism for non-blocking I/O for disk files, so the
>> I/O does block the underlying thread. The underlying thread will not
>> block for I/O on a network connection or a pipe. As a practical
>> matter this is only relevant when using a networked file system, as
>> local file systems are fast.
>>
>> > However, recently when I was reading the slides 
>> > (https://go.dev/talks/2012/waza.slide#32), on slide 32 I notice it says 
>> > "When a goroutine blocks, that thread blocks but no other goroutine 
>> > blocks". This is contradictory and make me wonder does Go really perform 
>> > I/O in an asynchronous manner (e.g. like select/poll/epoll in Linux) under 
>> > the hood?
>> >
>> > Can somebody please clarify?
>>
>> That talk is from 2012. The network poller and scheduler have been
>> rewritten since then.
>>
>> Ian
>
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