FWIW, I'm in the "I like how it is now better than any other proposal so 
far" camp; I think this happens as you get used to the Go way. Go is Go.

The only thing I would consider is making *interface* types (only) 
implicitly usable in a boolean context, e.g.

if err { ... }

However, I suppose people would ask "why not pointers? why not channels?" 
etc.  I'm not suggesting it should become like Python where every non-zero 
value is treated as "true".  Interface values are special, and there's very 
little you can do with a nil interface (whereas for example, a nil pointer 
can still have methods called on it).  But this does add a special case, 
and Go already has its share of surprises you have to learn.

On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 22:41:38 UTC+1 DrGo wrote:

> Yes. Go is no longer the simple language it was. I suspect because of 
> internal pressures within Google as evidenced by multiple innovations that 
> seem to come from nowhere eg dir embedding and associated fs package that 
> duplicated perfectly good ways of doing things. The module system while 
> useful is quite complex. Generics and all the associated packages inflated 
> the mental burden of learning and reading Go code significantly. And having 
> the go 1 compatibility guarantee means that old stuff remains valid code 
> and must be learned too. 
>
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:59:07 PM UTC-6 Victor Giordano wrote:
>
>> Yeah.. I mean, the "idiom" `err != nil return` err is something of the 
>> language. I complain about the boilerplate that idiom produces and that is 
>> fact fact (no one can deny it).
>>
>> You know, your approach implies making the language a little more 
>> complicated as new ways to deal with errors appear. I do understand that 
>> some folks provide some push back on the idea simply because there is 
>> nothing wrong with the language right now regarding error handling. 
>>
>> As I see things, the language was simple in their origins, but from time 
>> to time they complicated a little more some things, for example "what about 
>> generics?"  (are they really necessary?, I mean... I think using interfaces 
>> provides all the genericity you may need). So I guess there is room to make 
>> some changes and make the language easier. I would say that both ways of 
>> handling errors are valid, the most important is to be as simple 
>> as possible so you ensure that other people understand it. Like Generics, 
>> you don't have to use them. So I would praise it for adding another way, 
>> less repetitive.
>>
>> Also like to see how people react and what their opinions are. So far 
>> what I read is just personal taste.
>>
>>
>> El mar, 1 ago 2023 a las 16:04, 'Luke Crook' via golang-nuts (<
>> golan...@googlegroups.com>) escribió:
>>
>>> And of course I forgot the "if" at the beginning of all those 
>>> conditional. *sigh*
>>>
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