Yes but only for a single reader - any concurrent reader is going to 
park/deschedule. 

There’s a reason RW locks exist - and I think it is pretty common - but agree 
to disagree :)

> On Jan 30, 2023, at 6:23 PM, Ian Lance Taylor <i...@golang.org> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 1:00 PM Robert Engels <reng...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Pure readers do not need any mutex on the fast path. It is an atomic CAS - 
>> which is faster than a mutex as it allows concurrent readers. On the slow 
>> path - fairness with a waiting or active writer - it degenerates in 
>> performance to a simple mutex.
>> 
>> The issue with a mutex is that you need to acquire it whether reading or 
>> writing - this is slow…. (at least compared to an atomic cas)
> 
> The fast path of a mutex is also an atomic CAS.
> 
> Ian
> 
>>>> On Jan 30, 2023, at 2:24 PM, Ian Lance Taylor <i...@golang.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:26 AM Robert Engels <reng...@ix.netcom.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t think that is true. A RW lock is always better when the reader 
>>>> activity is far greater than the writer - simply because in a good 
>>>> implementation the read lock can be acquired without blocking/scheduling 
>>>> activity.
>>> 
>>> The best read lock implementation is not going to be better than the
>>> best plain mutex implementation.  And with current technology any
>>> implementation is going to require atomic memory operations which
>>> require coordinating cache lines between CPUs.  If your reader
>>> activity is so large that you get significant contention on a plain
>>> mutex (recalling that we are assuming the case where the operations
>>> under the read lock are quick) then you are also going to get
>>> significant contention on a read lock.  The effect is that the read
>>> lock isn't going to be faster anyhow in practice, and your program
>>> should probably be using a different approach.
>>> 
>>> Ian
>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2023, at 12:49 PM, Ian Lance Taylor <i...@golang.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 6:34 PM Diego Augusto Molina
>>>>> <diegoaugustomol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From times to times I write a scraper or some other tool that would 
>>>>>> authenticate to a service and then use the auth result to do stuff 
>>>>>> concurrently. But when auth expires, I need to synchronize all my 
>>>>>> goroutines and have a single one do the re-auth process, check the 
>>>>>> status, etc. and then arrange for all goroutines to go back to work 
>>>>>> using the new auth result.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To generalize the problem: multiple goroutines read a cached value that 
>>>>>> expires at some point. When it does, they all should block and some I/O 
>>>>>> operation has to be performed by a single goroutine to renew the cached 
>>>>>> value, then unblock all other goroutines and have them use the new value.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I solved this in the past in a number of ways: having a single goroutine 
>>>>>> that handles the cache by asking it for the value through a channel, 
>>>>>> using sync.Cond (which btw every time I decide to use I need to 
>>>>>> carefully re-read its docs and do lots of tests because I never get it 
>>>>>> right at first). But what I came to do lately is to implement an 
>>>>>> upgradable lock and have every goroutine do:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have historically rejected this kind of adjustable lock.  There is
>>>>> some previous discussion at https://go.dev/issue/4026,
>>>>> https://go.dev/issue/23513, https://go.dev/issue/38891,
>>>>> https://go.dev/issue/44049.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For a cache where checking that the cached value is valid (not stale)
>>>>> and fetching the cached value is quick, then in general you will be
>>>>> better off using a plain Mutex rather than RWMutex.  RWMutex is more
>>>>> complicated and therefore slower.  It's only useful to use an RWMutex
>>>>> when the read case is both contested and relatively slow.  If the read
>>>>> case is fast then the simpler Mutex will tend to be faster.  And then
>>>>> you don't have to worry about upgrading the lock.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ian
>>>>> 
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