Please, stop being so condescending to newcomers and non-professional developers. Generics as uses by end-users will improve their experience, not make it harder.
(And what is this obsession with "classes"? Go has them - structs with methods are classes). On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 1:32:30 AM UTC-8 rickti...@googlemail.com wrote: > My point of view is that Generics should not become part of the Go > standard library. I appreciate there are use cases where it is very helpful > to have, but I do not believe that adds value to Go. The real value for Go > is it's simplicity, avoidance of generics and avoidance of classes. This > makes the language accessible and approachable to all, which is > increasingly more valuable. Go appeals to new-comers and experienced > developers because it is simple, and comfortable. The rate of uptake in > computing technology is still subject to Moores law, and today we see a new > type of programmer emerging, the 'citizen developer'. > > Go follows time proven computational concepts, it does not follow the 'new > paradigm' tribes, it's roots are firmly planted in statically typed > procedural/functional programming techniques, and this maps well to much of > the literature available. The growth of entry level developers ( aka > 'citizen developers' ) will be exponential over the next decade, and in > that landscape it is Go's simplicity that will win the day. > > On Monday, 28 December 2020 at 17:35:40 UTC L Godioleskky wrote: > >> " If generics gets added to Go, we're opening a very dangerous door, and >> it will be the downfall of Go because - and Robert Griesemer this is >> especially addressed to you - what's next then? Seriously, what's next? >> ... " >> >> .. AI, followed by cryto currency and asexual repoduction >> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 5:09:05 AM UTC-5 Martin Hanson wrote: >> >>> No polls. It's not a matter of majority rule! >>> >>> It's a matter of understanding why generics was left out of Go from the >>> start, like classes was left out of Go. If we start adding stuff that >>> the original developers of Go left out by purpose, we're not >>> understanding the design choices that went into Go, which is exactly >>> what makes Go unique! >>> >>> Go was a major slap in the face to all the hype that has polluted the >>> programming industry for the past 30-40 years, which is why Go got so >>> much hate in the beginning from all the hype loving people. >>> >>> If you want to add generics to Go, if you want to change how errors are >>> handled, if you want X, Y or Z feature that Java, C++, or some other >>> complex language has got, then go use that language! Why are you even >>> here!? >>> >>> The design choices that went into Go was not made randomly, nor were >>> they made by just anyone. Please understand that the people who >>> designed Go, and we all know who they are, had/has tons of experience >>> and the pragmatic approach they took is what make Go stand out so >>> beautifully! >>> >>> If generics gets added to Go, we're opening a very dangerous door, and >>> it will be the downfall of Go because - and Robert Griesemer this is >>> especially addressed to you - what's next then? Seriously, what's next? >>> Let the community decide by majority!? Is that how we design a >>> professional programming language now? By majority rule?! NO! The >>> majority is all about hype and shine. >>> >>> Adding generics to Go will rip out the spine of the philosophy of Go >>> and I for one will not be a part of that. I have more than 30 years of >>> experience in the business and I fully understand why generics and >>> classes and all the other clutter was left out of Go. >>> >>> If generics gets added to Go, we're a big enough part of the community, >>> that passionately hate that, that we can manage to fork Go - which I >>> strongly believe will then be the right thing to do! >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "golang-nuts" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to golang-nuts+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/golang-nuts/d7d74d11-9f43-49e3-b528-fac781cd889fn%40googlegroups.com.
