I'm beginning to think that community members (like myself) can't
reasonably be expected to put in the necessary effort to champion a sizable
language change. I think it was Ian who made multiple generics draft
proposals just to reject them himself, then Ian and Robert Griesemer spent
more untold hours writing the contracts draft design only to have that
rejected as well. For people outside the core Go team, these probably would
have been unpaid hours. It's hard to justify spending that kind of time
when there's such a high chance that the proposal may not amount to
anything. I think it's for this reason that community proposals are usually
nowhere near as fleshed out as the draft proposals we've been getting from
the core team.

There are some incredibly talented and persistent gophers out there and I
don't mean to discourage them. This is just my observation from the
community proposals I've read.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 1:32 PM Brandon Bennett <benn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have just read
> https://github.com/golang/go/issues/33892#issuecomment-659618902 and
> since it was posted on a closed issue I wanted to comment a bit more.
>
> I subscribed to this issue and read the updates for both the Go2 proposals
> as well as the Go1 proposals and I enjoy reading them.  I understand the
> reasoning behind wanting to do less here but I do belive there are some
> downsides as well.
>
> One reason I read these every week is that it gives people outside of the
> Go team an insight into the thought process and the reasoning of
> decisions.  Also feedback on these changes hopefully should help to refine
> future requests.  I am really afraid that just "ignoring" requests
> continues or goes back to the idea that  that Go is not a community
> language and that the only ideas and changes can come from Google employees
> (or past employees in the case of bradfitz).  The transparency here was
> awesome and I am very sad to see it go away.
>
> I hope there is some other middle ground or at least some details around
> what will go into hand picking?  For the non-picked proposals will they
> just remain open for some undetermined amount of time?  Will they just be
> closed?  Is feedback on these still expected?   Maybe the real solution is
> just to meet up less?  Maybe once a month or even once a quarter vs every
> week?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brandon
>
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