It's not difficult to imagine banners like "free (some geographic place)" or "remember (someone or some date)" causing severe problems. This banner differs only in degree of risk. It increases the risk of a problem by some non-0 amount.
This isn't about agreeing or disagreeing with the sentiments. It's about not wanting to think about it when consulting technical documentation. As an aside it is not nice to be told my concerns are trivial. I'm concerned. I'm not the only person on this list that has expressed concerns. That should be enough for the issue to be taken seriously (regardless of outcome). On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 17:23 Axel Wagner <axel.wagner...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Can you be more specific about how this is a real issue? Like, do you have > precedent, where a banner-ad was the reason someone who linked to a page > for unrelated reasons was prosecuted? Would be interesting to have some > real cases so we get a clear picture of the threat here. > > Because to be clear, the reason I am trivializing this, is because I > believe it to be trivial. I can make up all kinds of laws and speculate > around how what you may say is violating them. NBut just because it's laws > I make wild claims about doesn't actually make the problems I talk about > real. > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:33 AM Jon Reiter <jonrei...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm sorry, I think this trivializes real concerns that impact a >> significant number of people. It is not hard to imagine a setting in many >> major cities around a world where a banner like this appearing during a >> presentation or training session could cause problems. I am not the source >> or enforcer of such rules -- but I am responsible for ensuring I comply >> with them. >> >> I don't know where you live or work or travel but is in insensitive to >> dismiss this as a non-issue for everyone that uses go. To the extent it is >> an issue it's a local legal issue. In that way the go code of conduct >> isn't the primary concern. >> >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 2:48 PM Axel Wagner < >> axel.wagner...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> I share link to golang.org all the time and I'd be willing to serve as >>> a testcase for this. Feel free to report my alleged crimes to the police. >>> Claiming that simply sharing a link to the Go page is "advocating for a >>> foreign political cause" is clearly a bad-faith argument, so if you live in >>> the kind of legal system where you aren't laughed out of the room by any >>> judge you try to make it to, I feel that the content of the Go project page >>> is the least of your worries. >>> >>> Also telling that you seem to explicitly call out the Go code of conduct >>> as not "impacting the entire community"? Surely I misunderstood that. Just >>> pointing that out to make clear that "it impacts the entire community" is >>> pretty much par for the course for things the Go team does. >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 6:29 AM Jon Reiter <jonrei...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Except now sharing links to golang.org, or showing those web pages at >>>> events, could be argued as advocating for a foreign political cause. And >>>> that's illegal in much of the world. Per google, google operates in 219 >>>> countries. This could force community members to argue in any of at least >>>> 219 legal systems this is apolitical under local law. Not the golang code >>>> of conduct, local law. That is a decision that impacts the entire >>>> community. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 6:23 AM 'Dan Kortschak' via golang-nuts < >>>> golang-nuts@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In the context of a sufficiently large collection of people all actions >>>>> are political to some degree, *including inaction and non-comment*. >>>>> Where the boundary is for the degree on what constitutes a political >>>>> action and what doesn't varies between people. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 2020-06-14 at 16:44 -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: >>>>> > Sam Whited <s...@samwhited.com>: >>>>> > > This is not a simple political issue, it is a personal human issue. >>>>> > > It >>>>> > > is a social issue. 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