I don't quite understand the logic you are proposing - but my point still
stands: I believe you should first try and implement it as a separate tool.
There is no real downside to that approach; it's just as useful as its own
tool. And with a working implementation, we can concretely check its
false-/true-positive rate against existing Go code. It should be fairly
painless to actually move it into vet, once it exists.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 6:32 PM Burak Serdar <bser...@ieee.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:06 AM Axel Wagner
> <axel.wagner...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Can you post some working code to the playground? ISTM that the code you
> shown wouldn't compile (X has both a Next field and a Next method). Also,
> the receiver is called X, but you return an *Item. That's not totally
> hypothetical as a follow-up, because in general, linked lists are an
> example of where IMO a nil-value can be made a completely useful
> implementation of an interface, by putting a nil-check in the methods.
> However, it's hard to talk about it concretely, without working code to
> adapt to show the idea :)
>
> Sorry for the sloppy code. The first email I sent has a working
> example to illustrate. My real code where I had this was in the
> context of an ssh-based library with a bastion host. Here's a summary
> version:
>
> https://play.golang.org/p/tNmWWb_28qZ
>
> When I first wrote this, I had a Host struct, with func (h Host)
> GetVia() *Host . After it worked, I changed the Host to an interface,
> HostIntf and added Via() HostIntf function to it, and ended up with an
> enabled recursion, because  h.Via() is never nil.
>
>
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 5:46 PM Burak Serdar <bser...@ieee.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>   - function returns an interface Y
> >>   - there is a return X where X is not of type Y and is a reference
> >>   - X is not assigned a value in at least one code path
> >>   -  there are no nil-checks for X
> >
> >
> > IMO this is not sufficient to avoid false positives. For one, if nil is
> a valid implementation of an interface, returning a nil-value of that type
> is of course totally fine. Then, with the sort.StringSlice example, there
> are no nil-checks in any methods - but there don't *have* to be, because
> `len` on a nil-slice returns zero and the contract of the interface
> guarantees that Swap and Less are never called with out-of-bound indices.
> Note, that there
>
>
> If you do "return sort.StringSlice(nil)", then the return value is
> created/assigned in the function body, so it wouldn't alert. It would
> only alert if the function gets a reference value from somewhere else,
> converts it to an interface and returns it. So the following would be
> ok:
>
> func f() sort.Interface {
>   return sort.StringSlice(nil)
> }
>
> But this would be a false-positive:
>
> func g() sort.StringSlice {
>   return sort.StringSlice(nil)
> }
>
> func f() sort.Interface {
>   return g()
> }
>
>
>
> is no way to check for this programmatically - for a tool, if
> StringSlice.Swap is ever called, with any arguments, on a nil-value,
> it would panic.
> > So the implementation of sort.StringSlice is totally fine as is and it's
> totally reasonable to use a nil-value as a sort.Interface (e.g. say you
> declare a variable of that type and then fill it conditionally with append
> - you might end up with a nil-slice) but would be reported as a
> false-positive.
>
> You are talking about analyzing what happens after function returns. I
> am talking about only analyzing the function that causes the possible
> nil-value-interface. Above, only the function f() would be analyzed,
> and the first copy would be ok, and the second copy not, which, in a
> way makes sense because f() doesn't know what g() does, and if g()
> returns a nil instead of a nil-value-interface, then f() will hide
> that nil.
>
> >
> > Come to think of it, this actually returns false-positives even with the
> most strict implementation of the check - that is, if it only triggers if
> *all* code-paths at the interface creation-point return nil and if *all*
> code-paths in the method actually panic. Because even that check would
> falsely flag sort.StringSlice.
> >
> > Even more sensible then, to implement this as a separate tool, to see
> what kind of false-positives it comes up with and how many true-positives
> it finds :)
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> then it is likely that function will mask a nil-return.
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > If that sounds interesting, I would recommend trying to implement
> that as a tool out-of-tree, to give the community opportunity to test it
> out. If you base it on the analysis package, it would be easy to integrate
> into other tools (and maybe eventually vet) when the time comes :)
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 4:20 PM Burak Serdar <bser...@ieee.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> This happened to me more than once, and not only with errors.
> >> >>
> >> >> For a function that is declared to return an interface, if you return
> >> >> a nil-pointer with a type other than that interface, the returned
> >> >> interface is not nil.
> >> >>
> >> >> Here's an example:
> >> >>
> >> >> https://play.golang.org/p/dpd76zyN9Fv
> >> >>
> >> >> I think go vet should warn about this case. What do you think?
> >> >>
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