+1 Thanks for the lesson! Em sexta-feira, 31 de maio de 2019 13:44:55 UTC-3, Devon H. O'Dell escreveu: > > Maybe this story about suggesting the murder of a colleague is supposed to > be a tongue-in-cheek joke, but I want to push back heavily against it. And > I’m sorry that this is devolving significantly from the original topic, but > I don’t think this should slide by. > > Though my professional experience is limited to “just” a bit under 20 > years, this story embodies a culture I want to see change in both > professional and open source environments. This is a culture that makes > neophyte programmers — indeed even some with experience — live in a > constant state of fear. I think back to a job I had about a decade ago > where I was so bent on outperforming all my colleagues, I missed an > opportunity to help a junior developer improve. This person was doing > terribly by all measurable metrics (at least compared to the other > colleagues), but nobody intervened to help them improve. I remember that > person saying to several people — and this was said in their exit interview > — that a big reason they quit was that they lived in a constant state of > fear about being fired. That’s neither healthy nor ok for the work culture > to have supported. > > Eventually, I decided to try to help this person after they left. This was > through comments left on their blog. In retrospect these comments read > more as attacks or attempts to boost my own image over theirs. This person > blocked me on Twitter many years ago and disabled comments on their blog. > > I regret this in its entirety. I can’t imagine looking back at a time I > suggested shooting someone, thinking it was funny, and sharing that > globally on an open source list with a CoC to be inviting and welcoming to > neophytes. > > Having since successfully mentored individuals into systems programming > teams, I can’t imagine working in an environment that would tolerate such a > comment. If I heard such a thing today, I would make it clear that such > commentary is unacceptable, if not file a complaint with HR. > > Having also worked with people who seem immune to learning, I understand > that helping folks can be a drain, especially when it’s not successful. But > suggesting shooting a person is just not ok, and to be frank, it doesn’t > make the story funny and you owe that person an apology. There are plenty > of other more constructive ways to handle such a situation. > > Kind regards, > > —dho > > > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 16:33 David Skinner <skinne...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> I only rarely use generics in Go. When I do so, it is implemented using >> the +generate. The repos with my generics stuff is not public. If they >> were, they might be incomprehensible. While I rather like Fo, the thought >> of C++ style generics makes me cringe. Code must compile but it needs to be >> readable. >> >> I am very old school, I started programming with 8008 machine code. If >> something does not meet my needs, I may complain, but I may just write what >> I need. Go does not have generics but it is very easy for any user to >> implement generics in a variety of ways on an as needed basis. The thing >> is, I am not committed to Go, I am willing to use whatever works best for >> me, and right now that is Go, and I believe that that is the result of the >> experience of the Go team residing at Google in working as a team. >> >> I remember doing a code review at Sierra Online, it was a metrics project >> to evaluate employee performance, one programmer was so bad, I asked the >> head of the programming department to have him shot. He said, you want him >> fired? No, I want him shot, if you fire him, he will go and write bad code >> somewhere else. For some reason I do not understand, the company had a >> policy against shooting programmers that violated the style guidelines. >> >> When this is your life and your livelihood, it is easy to get emotional. >> Right now, I am still saying Thank you Google, and Thank you to the Go Dev >> Team. Well Done! Hope you do better next year. :) >> >> >> >> On Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 8:18:25 AM UTC-5, lgo...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/GoIsGooglesLanguage >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "golang-nuts" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to golan...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/golang-nuts/3e72df2e-e27d-4dbe-9545-8527bdce1e35%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/golang-nuts/3e72df2e-e27d-4dbe-9545-8527bdce1e35%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >
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