Hi Rob,

Thanks for the link to that talk. I had many of the same early experiences, 
including using an IBM keypunch and interacting with an IBM 360 
(programming in APL) over a modem line.

My first programming job was in 1981 on a VAX11/780 running UNIX/32V (with 
7th edition manuals) in the Caltech High Energy Physics Department. ed 
wasn't just the *standard* text editor, it was the *only* text editor, so I 
used it a a lot!

When I got an account on the Computer Science Department's BSD 4.1 system 
months later, I learned to use vi immediately, and loved it. It was a huge 
upgrade from ed. It was really helpful that I had already learned to use 
ed, since the commands are all available within vi. Since then, I've never 
found any other editor that felt like an upgrade. Nowadays I use vim 
because there are a few nice things about it that aren't in vi. At least, 
vim is ok after you turn off syntax highlighting and all the other newbie 
crutches. :-P Seriously, how many people can't read or write in English (or 
their native language) if the verbs, nouns, and prepositions are the same 
color? I don't get it.

About early mice: Later in 1981, I was working for the Computer Science 
Department on a software development project in semiconductor design. We 
had custom-made 512x512 pixel color raster graphics terminals with 3-button 
mice. I think the mice were made by a graduate student or something like 
that. They used a steel ball bearing rolling against steel rods, so they 
slipped a lot. So that's another early appearance of mice.

On Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 4:32:22 PM UTC-7, Rob 'Commander' Pike 
wrote:
>
> And 15 years later, so one hopes for an improvement.
>
> The thing people ignore, or perhaps just don't know, about ed was that it 
> was a breath of fresh air compared to all the commercial editors available 
> at time. People judge it by the standards of today; by the standards of the 
> time it was created, it was mind-expanding.
>
> I spoke about this some in my recent personal story of Unix history: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=226&v=_2NI6t2r_Hs
>
> -rob
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 7:58 AM Dave MacFarlane <dri...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> But sam is a pretty solid improvement over ed.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 6:04 PM Rob Pike <r...@golang.org <javascript:>> 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Ed is the standard text editor.
>> >
>> > -rob
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 8:15 AM <buc...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Another vote for VS Code. I'm a hobbyist and have tried lots of 
>> editors.
>> >>
>> >> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 1:52:11 PM UTC-7, Pat Farrell wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old 
>> programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of 
>> whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
>> >>>
>> >>> What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can 
>> complete function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
>> >>
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