On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 10:37 PM Robert Engels <reng...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> That is not really true though, as I can declare a method that take a pointer 
> receiver and mutate through it, but the caller can pass a struct which it 
> thinks can not be mutated.
>
> https://play.golang.org/p/Abf4VX9kUTR

This is syntactic sugar for (&a).Change() - the method is still called
on a pointer, even if it's not obvious from the code. It's one of the
many ways in which `a.F()` differs from `A.F(a)`. I agree that it
makes the mutability less obvious (there's a tradeoff between
verbosity and convenience and Go deviates here), but it doesn't change
what I said - if you pass a value to a function or method, it can't be
mutated.

>
> Go isn’t type safe by stating that methods cannot mutate structs. Any reader 
> of the above code would think that couldn’t work, unless they inspected the 
> source to find a pointer receiver.
>
> On Nov 19, 2018, at 3:28 PM, Axel Wagner <axel.wagner...@googlemail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> The restriction has nothing to do with heaps (in fact, the Go language
> (i.e. the spec) doesn't even have a concept of a "heap"). It's a
> type-safety requirement. If you pass in a value, it can't be mutated,
> full-stop. Reflect shouldn't allow you to bypass type-safety - only
> "unsafe" can do that, hence the name.
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 9:51 PM Robert Engels <reng...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>
> Interesting. I guess that makes sense. But you would think that if using a 
> reflection call should force the compiler to heap allocate , then no reason 
> for the restriction.
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2018, at 2:33 PM, Ian Denhardt <i...@zenhack.net> wrote:
>
>
> Quoting Robert Engels (2018-11-19 15:13:53)
>
> But isn’t that just for safety. Meaning the unmarshall could use it as a 
> pointer via reflection and mutate it (but that is probably not what the 
> caller expects in Go) ?
>
>
> No, see:
>
>
>   https://play.golang.org/p/MyF0Dx87-1j
>
>
> If you pass in &foo instead and insert the appropriate call to
>
> value.Elem(), it works.
>
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