As a followup, I have been informed that there is a related open issue which seems like a good place to direct followup
https://github.com/golang/go/issues/26955 <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fgolang%2Fgo%2Fissues%2F26955&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF6hRXvDGfAJDpqZUX63pGCvsvm3A> Best, Scott On Saturday, 29 September 2018 15:53:53 UTC+2, Scott Cotton wrote: > > Hi all, > > I think this is related to https://github.com/golang/go/issues/26913 > which is closed but still has commentary that seems unresolved after it was > closed . > > Scott > > > On Friday, 28 September 2018 20:11:29 UTC+2, Harmen wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:19:50AM -0700, thepud...@gmail.com wrote: >> > Hi Harmen, >> > >> > And my first sentence might not have been clear. When I said "even in >> your >> > current situation, 'go build' is still pulling in exactly what it >> needs", I >> > was trying to reference the actual compilation process. >> > >> > In other words, I was just trying to make it clear that even if you >> have >> > "extra" dependencies appearing in your go.mod file, the resulting >> binary >> > produced by 'go build' does not have anything extra or any unused >> > dependencies. >> >> Hi thepudds, >> thanks for your anwers. >> >> It doesn't hurt per-se, but all those unused modules will be vendored in >> the >> repo (or the CI will have to download them every time). Maybe the consul >> repo >> is a particularly unlucky repo, since the /api package is small compared >> to the >> rest of the repo, but still. >> >> As for the argument that it's for test reproducibility, I do not follow >> that. >> Everything to test /api is there, and the stuff I don't import doesn't >> need to >> be tested in the first place. >> >> > In any event, I wanted to share at least my personal understanding, but >> of >> > course happy to learn more... >> >> I'm trying to do the same :) >> Thanks! >> >> > >> > --thepudds >> > >> > >> > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 1:00:17 PM UTC-4, thepud...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > > "So if consul adds a go.mod file in the root, then `mod tidy` will >> > > suddenly >> > > behave as I would expect (i.e. not pull in unused dependencies)? " >> > > >> > > Hi Harmen, >> > > >> > > Just in case this isn't already clear-- note that even in your >> current >> > > situation, 'go build' is still pulling in exactly what it needs (and >> not >> > > pulling in unused dependencies). >> > > >> > > I think there is not a significant harm in your go.mod containing >> these >> > > indirect dependencies (aside from of course seeing that longer list, >> etc.). >> > > >> > > And there is some benefit -- this behavior is part of what provides >> for >> > > 100% reproducible builds and tests. The modules system records >> precise >> > > dependency version information, and in your case, that precise >> dependency >> > > version information for some of your indirect dependencies is being >> > > recorded in your go.mod (given that it is not yet recorded in the >> > > non-existent go.mod of some of your direct dependencies). >> > > >> > > As an example, this behavior helps make sure that `go test all` is >> 100% >> > > reproducible for you (where `go test all` runs tests for both your >> module, >> > > your direct dependencies, and your indirect dependencies, which is >> valuable >> > > as one way of validating that the currently selected packages >> versions are >> > > compatible -- the number of possible version combinations is >> exponential in >> > > the number of modules, so in general you cannot expect your >> dependencies to >> > > have tested against all possible combinations of *their* >> dependencies). >> > > >> > > --thepudds >> > > >> > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 12:48:20 PM UTC-4, Harmen wrote: >> > >> >> > >> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 04:48:32PM +0100, Paul Jolly wrote: >> > >> > Hi Harmen >> > >> > >> > >> > I described the problem on >> https://github.com/golang/go/issues/27920, >> > >> which >> > >> > > got >> > >> > > closed within three minutes as being "documented", and "works as >> > >> > > expected" (which I assume also means "works as intended"). >> > >> > > Is this really the intented behaviour? It seems unexpected to >> me. Or >> > >> > > should I >> > >> > > simply stay away from `go mod tidy`? >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > I replied to your issue earlier. But could arguably have been >> slightly >> > >> more >> > >> > detailed in my response beyond simply linking to >> > >> > >> > >> >> https://github.com/golang/go/wiki/Modules#why-does-go-mod-tidy-record-indirect-and-test-dependencies-in-my-gomod >> >> > >> > >> > >> > As you note, github.com/hashicorp/consul/api is a package. It is >> a >> > >> package >> > >> > in the module github.com/hashicorp/consul. Despite there being no >> > >> go.mod in >> > >> > github.com/hashicorp/consul, the go tool simulates it as a >> module. >> > >> > >> > >> > Given there are no go.mod files in any subdirectories below >> > >> > github.com/hashicorp/consul, then github.com/hashicorp/consul is >> the >> > >> module >> > >> > for all the packages github.com/hashicorp/consul/... >> > >> > >> > >> > Hence go mod tidy (per the link in my response to your issue) is >> > >> pulling >> > >> > in the transitive dependencies needed for tests in >> > >> > github.com/hashicorp/consul/... The reason you see all of these >> in >> > >> your >> > >> > go.mod is that github.com/hashicorp/consul has not yet been >> converted >> > >> to a >> > >> > module as yet. >> > >> > >> > >> > Hopefully that gives a bit more colour on what's going on here. >> > >> >> > >> Hi Paul, >> > >> >> > >> thanks for your extended reply. >> > >> >> > >> So if consul adds a go.mod file in the root, then `mod tidy` will >> > >> suddenly >> > >> behave as I would expect (i.e. not pull in unused dependencies)? And >> > >> until they >> > >> add it (if ever) I either better not run `mod tidy`, or simply go >> back to >> > >> the >> > >> old dep system? >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "golang-nuts" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to golang-nuts...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "golang-nuts" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to golang-nuts+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.