On Tuesday, 28 March 2017 07:56:57 UTC+3, Will Faught wrote:
>
> Something I've never seen addressed in the generics tradeoffs debate (not 
> saying it hasn't been, but I haven't see it personally)
>

See 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vrAy9gMpMoS3uaVphB32uVXX4pi-HnNjkMEgyAHX4N4/edit#heading=h.j8r1gvdb6qg9

is that without generics, you're forced to use interface{}
>

You can also use copy-paste, code-generation.
 

> which just boxes the values anyway. So you're already paying a performance 
> cost for type-agnostic code without generics. And if you copy/paste code 
> instead of boxing, you're just bloating the size of the binary like generic 
> templates would. It seems to me if boxing generics was added, there 
> wouldn't be a downside:
>

It would be slower than copy-paste and generated approaches.
 

> if you didn't want to pay the performance cost of boxing generics, then 
> don't use generics; if you can pay the cost, then use them, and it won't 
> perform any worse than it would now with interface{}, and perhaps could 
> perform even better, depending on the semantics and implementation. You 
> could have the same opt-in performance tax in the form of bloated 
> binaries/slow builds as well,
>

When generics are added, then they will be (almost) impossible to avoid. So 
the opt-in "slow builds" isn't really opt-in unless you really try...
 

> but lack of an official debugger right now is predicated on builds being 
> fast, so that seems like a no-go.
>
> On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 12:10:08 PM UTC-7, Mandolyte wrote:
>>
>> The recent survey reveled that generics was thing that would improve Go 
>> the most. But at 16%, the responses were rather spread out and only 1/3 
>> seemed to think that Go needed any improvement at all - see link #1. I 
>> think most will concede that generics would help development of algorithms, 
>> libraries, and frameworks. So in the spirit of friendly rivalry, here is a 
>> list of algorithms developed for Swift:
>>
>> https://github.com/raywenderlich/swift-algorithm-club
>>
>> As you might guess, it is chock-full of generics. Yeah, I'm a little 
>> envious. :-) enjoy...
>>
>>
>>
>> #1 https://blog.golang.org/survey2016-results
>>
>

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