- I did not mention windows at all... so what's with that??? - And about the profit? they allow you to run your code on Linux and MS does not get a dime? The point is that you can develop .net core and don't pay anything to MS. - Yes VS Code is based on Github's electron framework, which is used by many others which may not contribute either. - Electron is also based on node, chromium, v8 etc...
I think we should stay on topic which is .net core vs go and contribute to the discussion. On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:00 PM Golden Ratio <0xc...@gmail.com> wrote: > So basically what you are saying is that we need another OSS tool to fix > sluggishness in current Microsoft toolchain? > > No, thank you :) The next generation app developers would just like to > avoid the sluggish part and the slow operating system altogether :) > > Well, we all know why Microsoft is all of a sudden in OSS frenzy. They > want to profit from it. Not that anything is wrong with it, but this is > their only goal. > > Best stuff around and you refer to VS Code? They just copied the core > parts from Atom's Electron without contributing anything back. > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Sotirios Mantziaris < > smantzia...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I do not agree with the above. Let me explain: > > - First of all asp.net core and it's new web server kestrel should be > used behind nginx or similar. Hiding it behind IIS is slow because of IIS > and not because of kestrel. Check out the new > https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks... which show not the best, but > not the worst either... No 10 in the plaintext category is pretty good if > you ask me... > - I don't even know to what you mean by saying single core. Are you > referring to .net? IIS? > - The people that once called OSS community communists are not in > charge anymore... It's like saying that German's are by default bad > because of you know who i mean... > - First Microsoft is closed source, evil corp etc and people where > angry... Then MS goes almost full blown open source embraces almost > everything and still people are angry... Conclusion, people are angry > anyways. > - Not every .Net Developer use only the MS toolchain, and with core > you can use anything a go/java/ruby developer uses... > > My personal note is the following: > MS does not have the best stuff around... but they have a pretty good > understanding of creating good developer tools and boost productivity > If you have used Visual Studio and Sql Server Management Studio then you > know what i mean. > > This is where, for my taste, go has a lot to learn ... and BTW i use > Visual Studio Code for my go development with delve as debugger. The next > Visual Studio will support go natively... > > Things are getting way better for us devs and this is a win-win situation. > > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 5:06:57 PM UTC+2, 0xc...@gmail.com > wrote: > > I have been managing Windows based environments for well over a decade and > .Net is one of the most slowest stacks I have ever seen. > That being said, I just finished configuring ASP.net Core Module on IIS > (it's just been released) for a client and it's still dog slow > (particularly the app startup in IIS). > > Not to mention the single core limitation. > > Microsoft has been recently seen jumping into OSS bandwagon by releasing > VS Code, the .Net Core, Powershell for Linux and native Linux containers > for Windows. Seems like they are desperate to get into this market, which > they had been blatantly ignoring for many years! > > Looking at "Fast" description at > https://www.microsoft.com/net/core/platform, I can see how Microsoft is > concocting lies to up-sell their product. These are same people who once > accused OSS community as communists ;) > > Like Henry said, Microsoft toolchain is only good if you are stuck with > its existing investment, just like StackOverflow etc. > > To me, it's all the baggage that comes with the stuff they keep renaming > and reinventing > <https://web.archive.org/web/20160120002529/http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ASPNET5IsDeadIntroducingASPNETCore10AndNETCore10.aspx> > . > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 5:59:31 AM UTC+5, Henry wrote: > > Go is a relatively small language, so it should be easy to learn > especially if you are already familiar with other programming languages. > Go's binary generation is also pretty good and it gets better with each > release. > > The major hurdle of a .net shop switching to other platform/language is > usually the non-technical ones. A typical .net shop usually have a > significant investment in .net and the tools around it. Moving to another > language (eg. Go) often means throwing away those existing investment. > > > -- Kind Regards, S. Mantziaris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "golang-nuts" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to golang-nuts+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
