This thread is such a fascinating one. Do you think it is covered in any of the many papers presented at the various seminars on Goan History. Quite a few of those proceedings have been published.
Warmly, Leonard On Sun, 23 Mar, 2025, 1:20 pm V M, <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes. This is what I remembered. Thank you very much, Frederick. > Incidentally, there is another King (of Mombasa and Malindi) who was > educated as a Catholic in Goa in the 17th century, but then "went back" > after being installed back home. There seems to be an interesting > Africa-Goa history here, that is woefully underexplored. > > On Sun, 23 Mar 2025, 10:55 fredericknoronha, <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> In 1983, during the CHOGM Retreat in Goa, the then Prime Minister of the >> newly-independent Zimbabwe was keen to find some of his tribesmen, who were >> part of the Mutapa Empire (*Mwenemutapa*, Shona >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shona_language>: *Mwene we Mutapa*, >> Portuguese <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_language>: >> *Monomotapa*), who had converted to Christianity, and had served in Goa >> as priests. Mugabe, later on a controversial politician but then still >> widely respected including for his oratory, ended up at a church or ruins >> in Chimbel, Tiswadi. I don't think Mugabe was directly related to them, but >> they probably belonged to the same tribe. Here's more on the Mutapa >> State and the early arrival of the Portuguese: >> https://zimfieldguide.com/mashonaland-central/rise-mutapa-state-and-early-arrival-portuguese-c1450-c1480 >> Here's some background on the wider issue: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutapa_Empire >> Mugabe's visit was covered in the *Herald* (Goa), probably frontpaged in >> one of its issues of Oct-Nov 1983. FN >> On Sunday, 23 March 2025 at 10:38:02 UTC+5:30 kachhua2 wrote: >> >>> Hi Vivek, >>> I never heard exactly about an African prince or king, but there was a >>> Georgian queen I believe who was buried in Goa. There was also a 16th >>> century >>> Abyssinian (Ethiopian) mercenary leader who might have been buried in >>> Daman. Not something I know a lot about, but just thought I'd throw it out >>> here. >>> Best. >>> Bob >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on >>> behalf of V M <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Friday, March 21, 2025 10:35 AM >>> *To:* Goa-Research-Net <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* [GRN] African prince/king buried in Goa? >>> >>> Dear friends, >>> >>> I vaguely recall a delegation from some African country visiting a site >>> in Goa where an important prince/king had been buried centuries earlier in >>> the Estado da India. Does this ring a bell for anyone? I'd be most grateful >>> for any guidance... >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> VM >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAN1wPW5tpx-CCA3831-%3D%2BiGqh4oBf79akgtQVJ9-LZDZ0Pa1yg%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAN1wPW5tpx-CCA3831-%3D%2BiGqh4oBf79akgtQVJ9-LZDZ0Pa1yg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Goa-Research-Net" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/ad1ce254-7963-49dd-9ca7-b6ce58159578n%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/ad1ce254-7963-49dd-9ca7-b6ce58159578n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Goa-Research-Net" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAN1wPW750RAO0oWO9c4%3D7rqPc6dqpz3A4NnGC2YGifjzA7E9FQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAN1wPW750RAO0oWO9c4%3D7rqPc6dqpz3A4NnGC2YGifjzA7E9FQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAK4dkEoeBX95eXhnJRTAoZP1Yzu9MjnfjMpTT3AOuW6FYvdrGw%40mail.gmail.com.
