On 10/5/19 2:11 AM, Chris Narkiewicz via Gnupg-users wrote:
> 20?  Wow. There are 8 billion people on this planet, most of them don't
> work at 20 companies from Fortune 500.

Most don't even work on software to begin with. What's your point?

> WhatsApp build crypto system that is successfully adopted by billions of
> users without technical knowledge.

Did you really set the bar _that_ low? Forgetting for a moment that Whatsapp is 
proprietary
and there's no way to actually audit the code... We already know that 
governments
have been pushing https://archive.is/suDJS for ways to decrypt it directly
and that they can in fact read messages via a central authority/server
https://archive.is/2TXqU when the receiving user of a message is offline. 

If you consider deliberately breaking E2E encryption by design a "success" then
yes, our views _strongly_ differ on not just what's successful, but also what's 
acceptable.

But go ahead, please rationalize why "ease-of-use" is more important than 
actual security
for power-users such as myself and those who absolutely won't compromise on 
true E2EE.

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