On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:46:38AM +0200, Gabriel Niebler wrote: > On the contrary, IMO this sort of thing is fully encompassed by the > word surveillance, at least as far as I have always understood it. > Otherwise any surveillance camera installed in a public or publicly > accessible place would not be one, by definition, since it is only > gathering publicly available information.
Just to get pedantic, according to Wikipedia [1]: Surveillance is the monitoring of the behavior, activities, or other changing information, usually of people for the purpose of influencing, managing, directing or protecting them. This can include observation from a distance by means of electronic equipment (such as CCTV cameras), or interception of electronically transmitted information (such as Internet traffic or phone calls); and it can include simple, relatively no- or low-technology methods such as human intelligence agents and postal interception. The word surveillance comes from a French phrase for "watching over" ("sur" means "from above" and "veiller" means "to watch"), and is in contrast to more recent developments such as sousveillance. 1- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveillance From that, I gather that surveillance is to gather information with the intent of "influencing, managing, directing, or protecting [people]". HACIENDA is gathering public information, with the intent to "plan intrusions into the servers". That seems pretty clear to me that HACIENDA is indeed a surveillance program. -- . o . o . o . . o o . . . o . . . o . o o o . o . o o . . o o o o . o . . o o o o . o o o
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