On 04/05/2013 11:39 AM, Stan Tobias wrote: > People assume pseudonyms for various reasons, anonymity being but one > of them. It is clear the person behind "adrelanos" wants to remain > anonymous, while giving a name to his action.
This is practically the definition of a pseudonym, not anonymity. Anonymity involves trying to avoid leaving any traces of identity whatsoever. I really do think it's worth distinguishing between the two cases, since they're quite different. From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn]: pseudonym n 1: a fictitious name used when the person performs a particular social role [syn: {pseudonym}, {anonym}, {nom de guerre}] anonymous adj 1: having no known name or identity or known source; "anonymous authors"; "anonymous donors"; "an anonymous gift" [syn: {anonymous}, {anon.}] [ant: {onymous}] 2: not known or lacking marked individuality; "brown anonymous houses"; "anonymous bureaucrats in the Civil Service" I agree with you that the WoT is not useful for people who truly wish to be anonymous. However, the WoT still can be useful for people who wish to establish a pseudonym. > Daniel Kahn Gillmor <d...@fifthhorseman.net> wrote: >> For a pseudonymous author who wants to establish a credible claim to a >> given identity, one way would be to encourage the people who have been >> following the work of that author to certify the key. In that case, how >> would they know it's the right one? This is a shade different from >> other scenarios, but if, for example, if i had been using tool X for 5 >> years, and had been corresponding with the author (e.g. bug reports, >> thank you notes, feedback, etc) over that time and all the >> communications and versions of the tool that i received consistently >> demonstrated that the person on the other end had control of the key in >> question, i would have no problem certifying that identity. > > What would such a certification accomplish? It establishes a history of someone doing work and being active using that name. Given that it includes an e-mail address, it is effectively globally unique (modulo problems with the DNS). If there are two such entities, using two separate keys, that's entirely possible. My certification would indicate which one is the one i have come to know as "adrelanos <adrela...@riseup.net>". > Further thoughts for discussion: > If I told you my pseudonym was "Werner Koch" (for "John Smith" was already > too occupied), would you sign my key? Well, i already know a Werner Koch, and i don't think i would sign any colliding user IDs without good reason. If i'm dealing with User IDs that are clearly non-global, have no difficult-to-forge corroboration (e.g. gov't issued ID), etc, and i have no prolonged experience interacting with someone using that identity, i'm likely to decline to make that certification. > Why would it take 5 years to > convince yourself to sign adrelanos' key; why not 5 months, or 5 weeks? I said 5 years as an example, not as a magic threshold where my confidence in someone's persistent identity kicks in. I suspect that each person has their own sense of this, and can make their own decisions about when making a public statement of known identity is warranted. One of the nice things about OpenPGP is that there is no requirement for everyone to have the same certification policy. > If someone revealed to you "adrelanos" was a secret FBI operation, > would you still sign it? (FBI behind "adrelanos" might be the true > original author of the software, accept bug reports, feedbacks, etc., and > I've heard they have really nice blokes there. So essentially nothing > changes, except the state of your knowledge.) I hope it's clear that my certifying anyone's OpenPGP certificate is a statement about who i believe uses a given name and address and what key they use. It is *not* a statement of political affinity, friendship, or a technical endorsement. I am happy to sign the keys of people with whom i have fundamental disagreements. My saying "this is adrelanos' key" does not say anything about "adrelanos works for the FBI" or "adrelanos does not work for the FBI" any more than it says "adrelanos is my friend" or "adrelanos is a milkman" or "adrelanos babysits my children" or "adrelanos writes awesome software" or "I can't stand that adrelanos character" Regards, --dkg
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