-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 25/05/12 21:47, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > On 5/25/12 1:47 PM, da...@gbenet.com wrote: >> For example opensuse - all versions tested: > >> (1) When you open the address book in TB select an address right >> mouse click you get an option to create a per-recipient rule for >> that person. (Openpgp/inigmail is installed for you to do this). >> With gpg2 installed this option flickers jumps and fades out. > > I have an OpenSUSE 12.1 system here on my desktop. I cannot recreate > this. > >> (2) With gpg1 - it is clear - no jumping -no fading no fuzziness - >> you get other options - such a delete - which are not available >> when just pgp2 is installed. This same flickering and fuzzing >> occurs with Fedora-16 all GUIs 32/64 bit and you only have one menu >> option which is to create a rule - though it flickers on and off >> one does not know one's created a rule till you go an check it >> within the options of openpgp. > > I have a Fedora 16 server in the closet. I cannot recreate this. > >> (4) But - and this is the big big big but - you can not digitally >> sign whilst encrypting - and worse when the person gets that >> e-mail they say "Why did you send me an e-mail that I can not >> open." These are real person to person facts with gpg2 installed on >> all the Linux distros I tested. > > I cannot recreate this on either my Ubuntu 12.04LTS laptop, my OpenSUSE > desktop, or my Fedora 16 server. > >> (5) Now I say that gpg2 does not work with the Linux distros I >> tested. Not all Linux distros are the same they convert open >> source to proprietary branded Linux. > > Them's fightin' words, "convert[ing] open source to proprietary." > >> This is why I said and listed those Linux distros that gpg2 does >> not work with. Now I suggested that perhaps enigmail/openpgp was at >> fault - and got told to bugger off cos it was a gpg2 problem. > > No one told you to do this. Instead, you were told that if you were so > certain this was a GnuPG 2 problem that you should take it to > GnuPG-Users. People also volunteered to help you discover the root of > your problem with GnuPG 2, but you did not take them up on it. > >> Now some people's reaction was not helpful - reading in that I was >> angry without reading the contents of my e-mail - these are ... > > We try to keep this mailing list free of vulgarity. I understand you're > frustrated and find these people (e.g., me) to be vexing, but many of us > would appreciate it if you would avoid vulgar language. > >> (1) Because "Oh it works on my system so it must work on other >> people's." > > As opposed to, "because it doesn't work on my system it must not work, > period"? > >> (2) "Bugger off we are not interested in how many Linux distros >> you tested it's not got anything to do with us." > > Which is, you know, *true*. If you're certain the problem is with GnuPG > 2, then complaining about it on the Enigmail list isn't going to be very > productive. The GnuPG developers are on this list, not that one. > >> (1) Some heavily branded Linux distros do re-write all the open >> source code to lock users in and deprive them of some functionality >> - Seahorse is a case in point > > This does not seem to be true. Which distros are forbidding you from > getting the source code for Seahorse? If they are doing this then they > are violating the copyright license of the Seahorse code, and I'm > certain the Seahorse developers would take great umbrage at that. > >> (2) Even when installing the open source for TB and Enigmail gpg2 >> does not work on Linux distros (I tested) > > It does not work *for you*. > >> (3) Some Linux distros (the one's I tested) do not support gpg2 > > It does not work *for you*. > >> There is one commonality which stands out and that is gpg2. > > The other commonality is you. It's quite possible you're doing > something wrong. And to repeat, we would be happy to try and help, but > so far your attitude towards help seems to have been one of angry > defiance. > >> (1) Do not Install any version of opensuse any version of Ubuntu >> any version of Fedora-16 and any version of Linux Mint. Why? The >> gpg2 that get's installed does not work. > > My experience, and that of tens of thousands of other Fedora 16, Ubuntu > and Linux Mint users, is different. > >> (2) All heavily branded Linux distros are no respecter's of open >> source. > > I need to see specific instances of their violating the copyright > license attached to the code, please. > > _______________________________________________ > Gnupg-users mailing list > Gnupg-users@gnupg.org > http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users > Let me reiterate "I am not angry." Which means in common English let me explain again to you I am not angry.
I gave you an example which was Seahorse - clearly you failed to read. I have set out quite clearly the issues found on Linux distros - you are unable to provide a solution to any. I am neither angry or disappointed. I state observations quite clearly - the recorded facts - and you are at a loss. As previously stated I now run Linux Mint/Ubuntu LXDE 32 bit with gnupg 1.4.11 I am quite happy with this set up. It works. I am considering installing Mandriva 64 bit with LXDE which from tests shows it to be stable with gpg2. My tardiness (slowness) in making such a move is I am a little tired of installing Linux distros. David - -- “See the sanity of the man! No gods, no angels, no demons, no body. Nothing of the kind.Stern, sane,every brain-cell perfect and complete even at the moment of death. No delusion.” https://linuxcounter.net/user/512854.html - http://gbenet.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEbBAEBAgAGBQJPwAsFAAoJEOJpqm7flRExRg4H9368tN3QPWNLfqcbKFfqPXqg /tOFNdcRHo9ZzHTWQhWgaxN2aXNGseqkBM4AngcN3YEcNOBIUdUavHWfed2gW4Db ah/k9VyLPm4eDpOVi1j+XFNJoVXGB+UsrsTslaR3VDsDEaqnyDxd0Z5B0+dffA9L X4aLChP6INWXi+d5wnjTkwUIA7uQEsKWMETlB1Qb7QYXukAKBAimpAdR5FYL0Px/ qZNXmF3JniqqMlh+Uey6Kv0ztM5bjCrFM8Ympw7aeBXLXWnNXET+lkEtuZuIXi3G b8ro9p8dV50Pm++TwJcXGECxmx5KWT9yXs4Pe4/l7+1IAn5V965YWdEdT2sHhQ== =Y8tq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
