Atom Smasher wrote:

has anyone given any thought to what would be the difference between carefully and carelessly making hard-copy backups of secret keys?

i mean, it would be stupid to print a copy of ones secret key (with a weak passphrase) and leave it lying on a table next to a window. OTOH, a printed copy of a secret key (with a strong passphrase) would probably be "secure" in a 10 ton safe.

so how strong should a passphrase be when printing out a secret key in the first place? what are the pros/cons of hiding versus securing a hard-copy? what other factors should be considered?

i think you are mixing up two different things. on the one hand you have the problem of security of your data, e.g. no one should read your mails, etc. . on the other hand you have the problem of date recovery.

for security you are using a very well gnupg setup.

for data recovery you realy need a copy of your keys. paiper is one of the most robust medium to backup date (the egyptain know a more robust medium, but the usual computer user is not able to use a hammer and a chisel ;) ). i think you shoud take your paper (or flagstone), put them into a sealed envelope. give it to you local bank. the german bsi has written a book called it-grundschutzhandbuch imho there is also an english version avalable. maybe you want to read this.

bear in mind, these are philosophical questions with philosophical answers... i'm not looking for absolutes.

btw, if anyone prints out their secret key for backup, here's a few lines of shell code that will print a (non-cryptographic) checksum for each line. this way if you have to recover your key from hard-copy, it's *much* easier to find mistakes. an example of the output looks like this (indented):

  -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----    3675205589 37
      3515105045 1
mQILBECkOvYBEADJfImYQNznN0PJxkwcGysohePmujLVJTsA30WV9tXrb6+4L5ib 2185591463 65 Ed9zHilbvXEgmrLJbG949H7yAwbNAaEjfnlqxBO31BmIJjUDmnXxe3FN98fuKIcq 3919870367 65 bVn8aqPOvGGvsJaWDwLyFSG3UT60htHFuh0I0Nco7AB6WTXBrwV/9JDkiy7p0fK5 1339170163 65

i know this little trick from the c64. there was a program called mse :)

have a nice day,
patrick

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