If you make your internet connection metered, that might stop Microsoft doing updates.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2026 at 10:41 PM scum buster via gnucash-user < [email protected]> wrote: > I have been using a computer for home and work apps for probably about > 40 years now -- I know the best practices.....but sometimes life gets in > the way and an app stays open while I step away and get sidetracked > etc....disconnecting it every time from the network isnt gonna > happen.....honestly, I also have no idea why MS keeps "updating" when > they clesarly said "you PC is no longer going to recieve updates"...but > thats a different gripe for a different day. LOL > > I do NOT have the "prompt me" box checked as I said but DO have the > "autosave" feature turned on. Attached a screenshot of that. > > The error only happens when I inadvertently do not manually save and > leave the app running when Microsoft does an unanticipated forced update > so it is random.....will post again next time it happens. > > Thanks for the input all > > D > > > > On 10/4/2026 10:01 AM, Kalpesh Patel wrote: > > > > Attach a screen grab of your current settings (along with type and > > version of the OS, and version of gnc) for auto save as that seems to > > be incorrectly set. This will allow folks here to weigh in. > > > > From what you are saying, it seems like you have done the opposite of > > what is required to auto-save. > > > > The main pertinent setting I can see (others can keep me honest here) > > is “Show auto-save confirmation question.” and if you “checked” that > > then it is doing exactly as it says – its prompting you to save; not > > automagically save. Secondary important settings for auto-save are the > > “Auto-save time interval” which should be set reasonable (I keep it at > > 5 mins) and “Retain log/backup files” which should be set reasonable > > as well (I keep it at 10 days) but this will consume more disk space. > > None of these time intervals should be less than one if you want them > > to be effective. > > > > If you have checked “Enable timeout on ‘Save changes on exit’ > > question” set to value greater than 1 then it is waiting that many > > seconds with a prompt when quitting the program (which is what Windows > > reboot will do – graceful shutdown of the application before killing > > the process) before it will exit **without** saving if you don’t > > respond within that time period. This is what your system seems to be > > configured for doing. > > > > Also if you know that M$ is installing updates in the background > > without your knowledge, you can either run the computer off the > > network (by pulling the cord out from the network card) and prevent > > that or why leave any application open and running without saving > > anything when you know that for fact? I get that some of the > > commercial apps (such as M$ Office) have ability to pick up from where > > you left off after reboot but that is not true of the entire universe > > of apps. You are looking to invite trouble if you are doing that as it > > is not the best practice to leave any app open with data files still > > in use. > > > > *From:*scum buster <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Saturday, October 03, 2026 6:37 PM > > *To:* Kalpesh Patel <[email protected]>; 'Clint Chaplin' > > <[email protected]> > > *Cc:* 'Robert Heller' <[email protected]>; 'David T.' > > <[email protected]>; [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Autosave question > > > > It has NEVER prompted me to save.......I have that popup turned off in > > the setting. I have the "autosave" option checked. > > > > On 10/2/2026 8:41 PM, Kalpesh Patel wrote: > > > > If it pops up and you don’t take any action to save then all those > > transactions accumulated since last save will stay pending to be > > saved; you’ll have to click on File àSave to persist them on to > > the disk at your choosing. This would be also the case for when it > > is shutting down because the shutdown process will kill the > > process without saving. If you are automagically looking for the > > system to press yes for that prompt when you asked for it to > > prompt you then it is not going to do it for you. That dialogue is > > for you to take the action; not for the system. > > > > Understand the ramifications of not setting up to automatically > > save and have it prompt to you for saving it very thoroughly. > > While option is there to prompt for save, it makes little sense in > > normal use case by a laymen to not automatically save all the time > > at certain interval rather than prompt for it. > > > > Knowing how GNC behaves, when you said “One of the options was to > > save this time, one was to sautomagically save all the time > > without asking, etc. I still have it pop up.” that is likely that > > the setting you select during that pop up it is only good going > > forward for that session of the GNC run and not saved persistently > > to the disk. Once you exit and relaunch, it will re-read setting > > from the disk and return back to prompting unless you go into Edit > > àPreferences àGeneral and setup auto-save settings. If you uncheck > > ‘Show auto-save confirmation question’ in there, it will always > > save at that interval without prompting (auto save does **not** > > overwrite existing file; it creates a new file with a timestamp in > > the name of the file). Right underneath is also setting to timeout > > display of that “save now” pop-up so if you do not act within that > > allotted prompt time and system ends up dismissing it due to time > > out then it won’t save and all changes accumulated since last save > > will be pending to be saved as well. > > > > HTH. > > > > *From:*Clint Chaplin <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2026 8:05 PM > > *To:* Kalpesh Patel <[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > *Cc:* scum buster <[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected]>; Robert Heller > > <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>; David T. > > <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>; > > [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Autosave question > > > > One other possibility; the default setup on my windows > > installation was to pop up a window when autosave was triggered to > > ask the user what to do. One of the options was to save this > > time, one was to sautomagically save all the time without asking, > > etc. I still have it pop up. If that option is enabled, what > > happens when shut down? > > > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2026 at 4:56 PM Kalpesh Patel > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > That sounds like your backend storage might be the cloud > > storage or you > > have very old drive that is not flushing cache before powering > > down. > > Assuming it is Intel pc, make sure BIOS settings for hard > > drive is set to > > AHCI mode and set it as removable or hot swappable drive type > > which should > > force it to flush cache upon power down command is sent to it. > > > > ----- > > Excuse the typos. It's the mobile thingy! > > > > > > > > On October 2, 2026 6:59:05 PM scum buster > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I have it set to autosave and apparantly it ISNT > > autosaving.....its not > > > just one transaction that gets lost...its a bunch, which > > were done > > > during my last session (if I did not manually save it). > > > > > > On 10/1/2026 5:56 PM, Kalpesh Patel wrote: > > >> I have the pre-build binaries of the 4.14 version running > > on Windows and it > > >> auto saves as well. If anything it would only be the > > current in-flight > > >> transaction not saved. > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Robert Heller <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2026 2:29 PM > > >> To: David T. <[email protected]> > > >> Cc: [email protected]; David Carlson > > <[email protected]>; ? > > >> scum buster <[email protected]> > > >> Subject: Re: [GNC] Autosave question > > >> > > >> I'm still using a built-from-source 4.14, and the auto-save > > does in fact > > >> save the file. > > >> > > >> At Thu, 01 Oct 2026 21:42:17 +0530 "David T." > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >>> I don't use this feature, but the documentation very > > clearly states: > > >>> > > >>> "Auto-save time interval: This field sets the number of > > minutes between > > >> each automatic saving of the file. Set to 0 to disable the > > auto-save > > >> feature." > > >>> This (and the name of the preference) would strongly > > suggest that the > > >> feature is supposed to, ahem, *save* the file in question, > > and not just toss > > >> up a reminder. > > >>> But, I'm sure I've misread things. > > >>> > > >>> David T. > > >>> > > >>> On October 1, 2026 8:50:27 PM GMT+05:30, David Carlson > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> iirc, auto save is only a reminder, not an action. > > However, you > > >>>> should be able to import transactions entered after the > > last manual > > >>>> save using the replay logs feature. > > >>>> > > >>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2026 at 7:56C"B > > > > > > -- > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus > > software. > > > www.avast.com <http://www.avast.com> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > [email protected] > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > ----- > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > > -- > > > > Clint (JOATMON) Chaplin > > > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient > > > > > > > > > > Virus-free.www.avast.com > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient > > > > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com_______________________________________________ > gnucash-user mailing list > [email protected] > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > ----- > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list [email protected] To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. 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