It all depends on whether the buyer or seller is paying the shipping
costs. 

If the seller is paying the shipping costs then it is an expense to the
seller but in this case the shipping costs are not explicitly included
in the purchase price and would be paid.

For a business this could be recorded as


Asset:Mus. Inst.      Cr 800.00
Expenses:CoGS         Dr 800.00
Asset:Bank Account    Dr 1241.00
Income:Sales Mus Inst Cr 1241.00

when the funds are received

Asset:Bank account   Cr 35.49
Expense:Shipping     Dr 35.49

when shipping is paid (these could be combined if simultaneous but
ideally better to keep the splits with memo annotations)

and the nett profit on the sale is 1241-800-35.49 = 405.51

If the buyer is paying the shipping costs, then the purchase price
should have included the shipping over and above the sale price of the
instrument itself and the seller cannot claim the shipping as an
expense and part of the money received pays for the shipping.

For this case it could be recorded as

Asset Bank            Dr 1178.51
Asset:Mus. Inst.      Cr 800.00 
Expenses:CoGS         Dr 800.00
Income:Sales          Cr 1178.51

Asset:Bank            Dr 35.49
Liability:Shipping    Cr 35.49

when the funds are received

and when the shipping is paid

Asset:Bank           Cr 35.49
Liability:Shipping   Dr 35.49

and in this case the net profit is 1178.51-800 = 478.51

Which of these it is appropriate should be clear from the sales
invoice.

David Cousens

On Thu, 2024-11-21 at 20:52 -0600, R Losey wrote:
> Expense accounts, because they are usually only increased, just have
> Expenses for debits. The credit is called a "Rebate". I don't know if
> you
> meant to make that account an expense account.
> 
> I don't see an Income anywhere in the list.
> 
> Your asset should have gone down by 800 EUR, as you did. The gain in
> this
> sale is 414 EUR, of which the shipping should be an expense, and the
> Income
> will be 1214 minus the shipping cost, right?
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 3:53 PM Boniforti Flavio
> <bonifort...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all.
> > 
> > I've just sold one of my instruments, for which I already have a
> > dedicated
> > account "Assets:Current Assets:Music Equipment EUR:Korg MS-20M".
> > The opening balance for this item is 800 EUR.
> > I now sold it and I got 1214 EUR for it. So I entered 1214 in the
> > "Total
> > Increase" column, with "Transfer" my EUR Checking account. Then I
> > added
> > splits:
> > 800 "Total decrease" so that the item's value is 0 (as I sold it, I
> > don't
> > have anymore its value at home) - Transfer = "Korg MS-20M" account;
> > 378,51 "Total decrease" (which is the surplus I made) - Transfer =
> > "Income:Music Equipment Sold EUR"
> > 35,49 "Total decrease", the price I paid for shipping this item to
> > the
> > seller - Transfer = "Expenses EUR:Post:Shipping cost of sales"
> > 
> > Now when I look at the last account listed, I see 35,49 in the
> > "Rebate"
> > column and the "Expense" column is empty - which in the end results
> > in a
> > negative total:
> > [image: image.png]
> > What am I doing wrong?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Flavio.
> > 
> > https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music
> > https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music
> > https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com
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